Absent of other proof, I base my acceptance of what people tell me on their past actions. These people have demonstrated their hatred  of us, our culture and their desire to kill and terrorize us into bending to their will and accepting their demands that we accept Shari law.

I have very little sympathy for them.

Much of what has been described can best be described as humilation and threats designed to break their will. I refer to the "panties on the head," "dog collars," etc.

You ask that I define torture.

Standing in a window hundreds of feet above the street in a WTC tower trying to decide if I want to be burned to death or jump to my death.

Watching a Flight Attendant having her throat cut with a box cutter.

Calling my wife and telling her to remember I love her as the airplane dives towards the ground.

Being stoned to death because I am accused of adultery.

Knowing that I am to be hung for the crime of rape while the man who raped me is going to be set me.

And when you do, if you can, you will see that we did not condone theseb acts, and punished those that did.

As I just noted. There are no anti-war groups in the predominatly Moslem ME.

That should tell you this. The moderate Moslems have been silenced by the radical Moslems.