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    HOLC cometh!! (5.00 / 2) (#1)
    by jedimom on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 08:55:45 AM EST
    It looks like HOLC cometh, courtesy of PEBO and his economic advisors, ROY is that Glen Hubbard, a big guy on PEBO'S econ council, is pushing it forward and laid it out at their meeting yesterday..

    Hooray!!!!!

    details here:
    http://tinyurl.com/6ofyxh

    and PS What is up with Pelosi 'laying down the law' to Rahm on PEBO not talking with 'her' DEMS without her knowledge? Uhmm I dont think so Nancy...


    Pelosi? Give me a break! (5.00 / 2) (#3)
    by Fabian on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 09:08:21 AM EST
    She may have a point, but I'm not likely to support her POV because of her lousy track record.

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    It is good to hear (5.00 / 3) (#17)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 11:08:54 AM EST
    Yet.......much is coming too late sadly to stave off the worst of this disaster that is yet to come.  It is hard to be fully happy this Christmas as I'm eyeing the oncoming chaos.  We are only at the beginning of the hard times and make no mistake that chaos is up ahead.  It is time the next generation learns some FDR quotes.  I intend to be ahead in this game where deaths can be a possibility of the losses we will face.

    Kindness
    Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.


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    Jest a leetle bit of ice. (5.00 / 3) (#2)
    by Fabian on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 09:06:48 AM EST
    Even the two hour delay wasn't enough.  
    (There are two reasons to use a delayed start for schools.  First, hope that the road conditions improve.  Second, avoid burning a calamity day.)

    The buses wouldn't come down the road, so I walked and slid my six year old to the nearest school and his bus picked him up him there.  (Apologies to all the neighbors whose yards I trudged through because I was avoiding the slick sidewalks.)  Apparently I was the only person suggested an alternate pickup point, because parents were driving their kids to school.  Eh.  I happened to know that the bus driver dropped a student off at that school before he picked mine up.

    (Come to think of it, the Transportation Master was a little surprised to hear I wasn't going to toss my darling child in the car and bring him to school myself.  He simply stated the problem: The bus would not be going down my street.  My solution was: Alternate rendezvous that didn't involve going down my street.)

    My cute lil' high visibility vest made people think I was a school employee or something.  Nope.  I just don't want to get hit.  My kid would have had one on too, but I still haven't found ANSI rated gear in size XXS.

    Cheers!

    Okay, Let's see if I can agitate this AM (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by easilydistracted on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 09:24:38 AM EST
    Biggest Loser was crowned last night on NBC. The winner is from Texas and is the latest in a long string of successes from the highly capable folks of the lone star state. See this link for the quote that follows:

    http://www.star-telegram.com/news/story/1098258.html

    That Dallas-Fort Worth residents tend to get on reality shows isn't unusual, but their success this year -- in which So You Think You Can Dance, Nashville Star, Last Comic Standing and The Amazing Race were all won by people who were North Texas residents at the time -- has been noteworthy.

    "That's the Texans,"..."It's their competitive spirit."



    The Biggest Loser... (5.00 / 3) (#5)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 09:33:31 AM EST
    ...from Texas?  Wouldn't that be one George W. Bush?  

    Aside from the Cowboys Super Bowl hopes, of course!

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    See... (5.00 / 3) (#6)
    by easilydistracted on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 09:35:52 AM EST
    I knew I could do it.

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    Thanks for that laugh! LOL (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by Teresa on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 09:35:56 AM EST
    How about those Vols, eh? (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 10:17:47 AM EST
    An interesting game last night--seemed to me that the Refs were calling every little ticky-tack foul (especially against Marquette).  You don't see that in Big Ten games!

    How on Earth does that one kid keep his headband on his head?  

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    Ah, Chism, my favorite. He is such a (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by Teresa on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 10:23:51 AM EST
    happy go lucky guy. Always smiling. I have no clue how that headband stays on!

    The ref's were payback for the jobbing we got at Temple Saturday. :) I don't know where they were from but they didn't allow much physical play. The SEC has awful referees so they were probably ours. I hated the foul call on the poor guy that got T'd up toward the end. There wasn't much contact and I don't blame him for being mad.

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    Everytime I see him play... (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 10:42:48 AM EST
    ...I'm waiting for that headband to go flying like a rubber band!  

    He was doing something right last night as his free-throws were going in.  Unlike the other night against Temple.  

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    Which George; Both right??? (none / 0) (#8)
    by easilydistracted on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 09:39:50 AM EST
    Southern Repubs vs Organized Labor (5.00 / 4) (#11)
    by easilydistracted on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 10:33:37 AM EST
    During my extensive career in the employee/labor relations field, I have represented management on numerous occasions as chief spokesperson during negotiations of collective bargaining agreements. I find quite absurd the right-wing diatribe and finger pointing regarding organized labor's purported involvement in the miserable condition of the US auto industry.

    Several years ago I negotiated the consolidation of two employee bargaining units caused by the merger of my company and a former competitor company that had fallen on bad times. The management of the company being merged was displeased over the general circumstances of the merger and blamed its company's woes on the working agreements of its union-represented employees.

    I listened intently and ultimately responded with a question that stunned those managers. I asked for the names of all the managers involved in the negotiations of those purported onerous agreements because such managers had exercised poor judgment and needed culling.

    My point there, of course, was that collective bargaining is not a unilateral action of one party and is, simply, a two-way street. It is clearly wrong to hold the union wholly accountable for some predicament that results from the voluntary and agreed-to actions of both management and the union. There were two parties at that bargaining table and management had the responsibility to reject any and all nonsensical proposals.

    That management would ultimately agree to some provision that would allegedly put its company at extreme financial risk; or, that it would sit idly by and do nothing over the years to amend such onerous rules, speaks soundly of that management's overall business savvy, or more appropriately, lack thereof.            

    They think of union negotiations (5.00 / 5) (#13)
    by andgarden on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 10:39:23 AM EST
    as extortion. So obviously, when something goes wrong it's never management's fault.

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    I don't get this... (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by desertswine on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 10:36:43 AM EST
    do they make exceptions for nuns?

    Ga. judge jails Muslim woman over head scarf

    Very strange (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by Steve M on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 10:47:12 AM EST
    Even the TSA lets you keep your headgear on.  Oh well, local courts and their cluelessness.

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    Well (5.00 / 2) (#18)
    by squeaky on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 11:18:57 AM EST
    I would not be surprised if she wins a huge settlement. She was not allowed to enter.

    Valentine's husband, Omar Hall, said his wife was accompanying her nephew to a traffic citation hearing when officials stopped her at the metal detector and told her she would not be allowed in the courtroom with the head scarf, known as a hijab.

    Hall said Valentine, an insurance underwriter, told the bailiff that she had been in courtrooms before with the scarf on and that removing it would be a religious violation. When she turned to leave and uttered an expletive, Hall said a bailiff handcuffed her and took her before the judge.

    What f*ckers.  


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    Attitude arrest. Don't swear (none / 0) (#42)
    by oculus on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 01:12:38 PM EST
    at the marshalls.  

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    "Earlier this year" (none / 0) (#48)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 01:24:11 PM EST
    Earlier this year, federal judges in Los Angeles and Detroit dismissed lawsuits asserting a right to wear an Islamic head scarf in courthouses.



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    Irrelevant (none / 0) (#65)
    by squeaky on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 02:41:54 PM EST
    She was arrested not for refusing to leave the courthouse but arrested after she accepted the bailiff's order that she would not be allowed in with the head scarf.

    She was on her way out.

    I am not suggesting that she sue for the right to wear a head scarf, although I would be happy if she did, I am suggesting that she has a case for being arrested for wearing a head scarf while she was in fact complying with the bailiff order and leaving the courthouse.

    As far as I can tell she was not arrested for swearing.

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    Fair enough, (none / 0) (#67)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 02:46:02 PM EST
    it was this comment of yours that threw me:
    I would not be surprised if she wins a huge settlement. She was not allowed to enter.


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    I See (none / 0) (#74)
    by squeaky on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 03:40:21 PM EST
    Makes sense.

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    For the inside-Washington power watchers (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by ruffian on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 10:56:35 AM EST
    Marc Ambinder has a good analysis of the Pelosi-Emanuel dynamic.  Bottom line:

    The real story behind this story is not even about Pelosi and Rahm; it's about the battle for the hearts and minds of rank and file Democrats, who will face four-way cross-pressures from the White House, their constituents, the Republicans and their party leadership in Congress.

    Pelosi knows the power game.

    Buckle your seatbelts!

    I wonder who (5.00 / 3) (#19)
    by lilburro on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 11:22:22 AM EST
    these lawmakers are?

    WSJ:

    New names for director of national intelligence and CIA director have surfaced in recent weeks, including former CIA analysis chief John Gannon for either job. Former CIA operations chief Jack Devine, deputy CIA director Steve Kappes and John R. Tunheim, a federal judge in Minnesota who has handled several terrorism cases, have been mentioned as potential CIA directors. Current and former lawmakers like former 9/11 Commissioner Tim Roemer and Rep. Jane Harman, a California Democrat, also remain in the mix. And some lawmakers have called on Mr. Obama to reconsider Mr. Brennan, said one person familiar with the transition.

    Also

    Obama advisers as recently as last week were soliciting recommendations for both jobs from allies in intelligence circles, suggesting that the Obama team is still deliberating over its picks, former intelligence officials said.

    Brennan really had a hold on them didn't he.


    Fricking weasels... (5.00 / 3) (#20)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 12:21:36 PM EST
    An insurance company with a potential $25 million liability from a 2007 Houston office fire is claiming smoke that killed three people was "pollution" and surviving families shouldn't be compensated for their losses since the deaths were not caused directly by the actual flames.

    Great American Insurance Company is arguing in a Houston federal court that the section of the insurance policy that excludes payments for pollution -- like discharges or seepage that require cleanup -- would also exclude payouts for damages, including deaths, caused by smoke, or pollution, that results from a fire.

    "This is shocking. It's an extraordinary effort by an insurance company to avoid paying on a contract for insurance," said Randy Sorrels, who represents several family members in wrongful death lawsuits from the fire in a six-story atrium building on the North Loop.

    http://tinyurl.com/6lpfhb

    You accepted the risk and gladly took the premiums, so pay the claims.

    That's disgusting. It's like the companies (5.00 / 2) (#21)
    by Teresa on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 12:25:55 PM EST
    that said the Katrina damage wasn't caused by Katrina but by water and should fall under flood insurance.

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    Uh, much of the flood damage was not (none / 0) (#72)
    by Cream City on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 03:26:49 PM EST
    caused by the hurricane.  Much was caused by water -- from the failure of the levees.  The levees built by the Army That Couldn't Build Straight.

    There ought to have been a ruling that Nawlins residents could sue the government, not the insurance companies.

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    Sure seems to me (none / 0) (#75)
    by Steve M on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 03:50:33 PM EST
    that Katrina was pretty much the root cause of everything, not that there weren't other contributing factors.  That lake didn't just decide to up and overflow on its own.

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    Blind faith in the works of man (none / 0) (#88)
    by Fabian on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 06:42:57 PM EST
    and not enough respect for the wrath of mother nature pretty much sums it up for me.

    New Orleans is a prime example of people thinking that being lucky is the same as being safe.  If not Katrina, then some other hurricane would have done the same thing.  I've described NOLA as the confluence of a host of geological, hydrological and meteorological risk factors.  A lot of those factors were actually made worse by human engineering - the levees to keep water in, the canals that channeled surges, and of course building ever more residences.

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    Nope, read the reports (none / 0) (#96)
    by Cream City on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 08:00:54 PM EST
    It was not the hurricane; it came and went, while  the levees held.  Nor did the winds did not bring down the levees.  Nor did the water top the levees.

    The levees broke.  Period.  It was the design of and then lack of maintenance of the levees.  

    Btw, if you're in NOLA in a heavy rain, I'd still steer away from the levees, if you've seen the exposes of the lousy patchwork repairs.  


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    I recall this case when I lived in the Houston (5.00 / 2) (#22)
    by easilydistracted on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 12:30:49 PM EST
    area, Hawkeye. Sounds like the insurance company is pi**sed off because the fire was set by one of the workers. Anyway, what's really troubling to me at least is that if this sort of absurd argument for mitigation has any sort of chance to gain traction, it can undoubtedly do so in this state.

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    The implications are pretty far reaching... (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 12:43:31 PM EST
    ...as well.  Lung cancer?  Too bad, that's pollution.  Skin cancer--pollution...

    If they tried that crap here, they would be begging for a claims audit--and they wouldn't like me showing up at their door.  Hopefully, the Texas DOI has an eye on them.  

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    Heh Heh (none / 0) (#29)
    by easilydistracted on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 12:51:23 PM EST
    Wanna move to Tejas?

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    Funny column at Huff Post: (none / 0) (#23)
    by oculus on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 12:35:57 PM EST
    Caroline Kennedy wanted to be Time's Person of the Year.  

    Another Dumb Blonde Joke? (none / 0) (#24)
    by squeaky on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 12:42:00 PM EST
    In addition to the Person of the Year honors, Kerry Kennedy said that Caroline had also expressed an interest in next year's Nobel Peace Prize.

    "That's a call she hasn't made yet," Ms. Kennedy said. "She has to figure out the time difference in Oslo."



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    NY State done lost its mind.... (none / 0) (#26)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 12:44:20 PM EST
    I can't believe all these new taxes the governor is proposing...music downloads, soda (regular only, diet is exempt, wtf is that about?), the old standbys alcohol and tobacco, transportation, and the list goes on.

    I'm waiting for the state to ask for a dollar every time a citizen urinates.  Is it time for another tea party?

     

    Well (5.00 / 2) (#27)
    by Steve M on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 12:46:46 PM EST
    the governor of Illinois had a creative idea to raise some funds, and nobody liked it.  So we're stuck with the same old playbook.

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    I guess.... (none / 0) (#34)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 12:57:19 PM EST
    I'll just have to grab a case of my beloved Coca-Cola as well as a carton of butts everytime I leave the state.  Or start buying it from the Gambinos.

    Just because the pass 'em doesn't necessarily mean we have to pay 'em.  I break the law everyday to live, whats one more?

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    Just don't forget... (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by Steve M on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 01:02:11 PM EST
    the principle behind the original tea party.

    Taxation because not enough of your fellow citizens agree with your views on taxes is quite different from taxation without representation!

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    You're right of course... (none / 0) (#51)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 01:34:53 PM EST
    just not feeling all that represented...and I doubt I'm the only one:)

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    But you don't pay tax! (none / 0) (#87)
    by Fabian on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 06:33:50 PM EST
    Doesn't that give you warm fuzzies?   Think of all the money you are saving!

    (in jest)

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    If you're talking about my beloved reefer... (none / 0) (#90)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 06:55:15 PM EST
    that's the one thing I've been begging to pay taxes on my whole adult life:)

    I got a better idea Paterson, forget all this nickel and dime sh*t...just legalize gambling and prostitution and tax the hell out of it.  Nobody will mind except organized crime and law enforcement. I'd say reefer too, but the feds might have a problem with that:)  

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    Smiles (none / 0) (#91)
    by squeaky on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 06:58:25 PM EST
    Squeaky my man... (none / 0) (#92)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 07:12:33 PM EST
    I swear...sometimes I think its the only thing that keeps me out of the loony bin.

    Whatever gets ya through the night...right bro?

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    Obviously (none / 0) (#93)
    by squeaky on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 07:20:40 PM EST
    A great case for md mj..  and bro I need a scrip too, at the very least to take the paranoia out of toking on the streets..  

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    Yeah... (none / 0) (#94)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 07:37:11 PM EST
    I don't envy you in Manhattan, in perpetual lockdown.

    One of the positives of the city and state being broke as a joke though...less cops.  Always a brightside:)  

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    Do you guys have... (none / 0) (#38)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 01:02:39 PM EST
    ...the Coke made with real cane sugar instead of corn syrup out there?  Man, there is such a difference!  

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    We have it in Texas (none / 0) (#39)
    by easilydistracted on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 01:05:50 PM EST
    And also the Dr Pepper with cane. What a difference. The stuff will knock your socks off (and I'm not supposed to have sugar but I've gotta have one of these every so often. Expensive though and in those tiny bottles.  

    Parent
    Oh man, DP too?! (none / 0) (#43)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 01:13:14 PM EST
    I haven't seen any of that--I'll have to keep an eye out for it.  I love a mixture of half DP and half Pepsi.  People think it sounds odd, but it tastes great.  

    I have a low tolerance for pop these days, so the little bottles are just perfect for me.  In fact, I usually get the tiny cans of Pepsi at my local non-Hispanic catering Safeway.  

    Parent

    Yep (none / 0) (#49)
    by easilydistracted on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 01:27:07 PM EST
    The DP with cane sugar is bottled at the original DP plant. You can find it all over here in Texas, 7-11s, Quik-Trips, all the convenience and grocery stores.

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    BTW (none / 0) (#55)
    by easilydistracted on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 01:53:14 PM EST
    I like the Safeway chain. Vons/Safeway in SoCal, Randalls in Houston and Tom Thumb in the DFW metroplex. All owned by Safeway. Are you getting the cents off per gallon on the gasoline in Denver, at any Safeway gas stations?

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    Yep. (none / 0) (#73)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 03:27:15 PM EST
    Although since they changed the program, I'm never sure of the discount until I get to the pump.  One time it was twenty cents or so and I was quite pleasantly surprised.  

    Of course, living in the heart of the city, there isn't a gas station at my local store.  I have to travel a ways to find one.  

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    Classic Coke Was A Joke (none / 0) (#40)
    by squeaky on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 01:06:26 PM EST
     I remember, as a child, actually liking coke. The corn syrup makes it taste gross.

    Parent
    Yeah, we get it here... (none / 0) (#63)
    by desertswine on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 02:39:22 PM EST
    it's from Mexico.

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    Not that new, according to (none / 0) (#44)
    by oculus on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 01:14:20 PM EST
    Team of Rivals.  Apparently Mary Lincoln was pretty savvy re patronage.  Had to pay off those White House decorating bills somehow.

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    Pay to pee? (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 12:50:13 PM EST
    Then you'd be just like a lot of places in Europe where you have to pay some attendent (usually an elderly woman) to use the john.

    Nothing like diggin for Euro's when you got to go!

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    Tips (none / 0) (#30)
    by squeaky on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 12:52:07 PM EST
    And usually the person who is there to keep it clean, lives on those tips and is not paid.

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    Different (none / 0) (#31)
    by CST on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 12:53:58 PM EST
    From having to pay.  There are some spots with turnstiles in Germany where if you don't have that money you are out of luck.

    The tips they have at a lot of fancier places here, but that is voluntary (although strongly recommended)

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    OK (none / 0) (#35)
    by squeaky on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 12:57:36 PM EST
    Have not seen that yet....

    Spent a lot of time in Germany, although not in the last several years, and I have only seen bathrooms where leaving money to an elderly attendant was voluntary. Gas stations, etc.

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    Dresden Train Station (none / 0) (#36)
    by CST on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 01:01:36 PM EST
    In 2001, heaven forbid you miss your train b/c you can't find those Pfenigs (back before they used Euros).  Luckily, I was able to help my girl out.

    I have seem some in other places where it is a public restroom that you have to give change for the door to open and such, can't remember where though.

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    One of Studs Terkel's better (none / 0) (#45)
    by oculus on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 01:16:09 PM EST
    pieces in Working: elderly man who attended the men's room in the Palmer House in Chicago.

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    Tijuana. (none / 0) (#33)
    by easilydistracted on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 12:57:12 PM EST
    Heck, I had to pay to pee in TJ. For $0.50 I got two little squares of toilet paper. My wife about had a fit. Hey, dog, remember that cell in the Baja?? They must also be in charge of the commodes in TJ.

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    Aren't you two brave. Any (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by oculus on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 01:17:01 PM EST
    problems (well, other than the toilet paper scam)?  

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    Oh Yes, plenty. (none / 0) (#50)
    by easilydistracted on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 01:32:40 PM EST
    Primarily those related to judgment -- for even visiting that s**thole in the first place. Actually, I was living in SoCal at the time and my son, who was visiting from Ohio, got me at a weak moment (hungover) and talked me into a junket to TJ. Jeralyn would get all bent out of shape if I posted all details of that trip. Suffice to say, I'm lucky to even be writing about it.  

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    Ahhh. I thought this was a recent (none / 0) (#57)
    by oculus on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 02:04:00 PM EST
    visit.  I'm planning to drive my brother to Ensenada next week and am a tad worried.

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    My only suggestion (none / 0) (#58)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 02:08:17 PM EST
    is to avoid drinking Margaritas or any other mixed drink. No one can "dose" a closed bottle of beer. Speaking from experience.

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    The only thing I'm worried about is (none / 0) (#60)
    by oculus on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 02:12:03 PM EST
    getting to and from Ensenada, due to the druge cartels battling the Mexican police in TJ and Rosarito.  

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    I would tend to think (none / 0) (#61)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 02:24:08 PM EST
    that that generally should not be a problem for you.

    This is purported to be a letter form the Mayor of Rosarito.

    But then again I blithely traipsed around SA during the salad days of the Shining Path, so I'm probably not the best person to listen to...

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    At least one tourist from (5.00 / 1) (#62)
    by oculus on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 02:30:47 PM EST
    U.S.  was caught in the cross-fire recently in Rosarito while sitting at an outside table on the main street.  

    But, I know what you mean.  Went to Egypt a year after the "accident" at Luxor and was in Guatamala before it was totally peaceful, as evidenced by dripping black paint on a wall.  Peru:  we waited until Guzman, #2 guy of Shining Path, was in prison.  

    My theory: go doing what you enjoy the most.  But, this trip is my brother's idea!  Me, I'm going to India.

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    Yep. (none / 0) (#64)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 02:41:21 PM EST
    I got some "extra special" attention by some Guatemala City narco-police who were robbing me and my fellow travelers the day after Bush the 1 invaded Panama.

    At the time we just called it a "travelers tax."

    Antigua, however, was heavenly.

    Anyway, India would be amazing. Enjoy.

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    A friend told me about trekking (5.00 / 1) (#66)
    by oculus on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 02:43:11 PM EST
    from Katmandu.  Maoists demanded a tribute but issued a receipt, so when my friend's party next encountered tribute-takers on the trail, they got a pass.  Efficient, eh?

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    Now that's funny. (none / 0) (#68)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 02:50:44 PM EST
    Classic! (none / 0) (#69)
    by Steve M on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 03:06:50 PM EST
    With a whole lime squeezed in (none / 0) (#70)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 03:06:57 PM EST
    after opening.  I do miss hanging in El Paso and running across the border.

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    the diet sodas exemption (5.00 / 1) (#54)
    by Amiss on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 01:45:59 PM EST
    "could" be because of diabetics.

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    Sort of In the Spirit of a Sin Tax (none / 0) (#78)
    by daring grace on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 04:34:44 PM EST
    The rationale is that it is 'an obesity tax' and according to today's NY Times: "would apply to nondiet sodas and fruit drinks containing less than 70 percent natural fruit juice, including "-ades, punches and certain fruit nectars," as the budget proposal put it. The tax, one of few of its kind in the nation, would not apply to bottled water, diet sodas, coffee, tea or milk."

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    Dog, you've been noticeably quiet today (none / 0) (#32)
    by easilydistracted on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 12:54:09 PM EST
    yet when you do speak, its with veracity.
     

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    Office is humming today.... (5.00 / 3) (#41)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 01:12:24 PM EST
    we'd been a little slow, then the place gone blew up today.

    Unfortunately, its not busy with sales, its busy dealing with supply problems and trying to salvage sales already made.  F*ckin' outsourcing...common sh*t is 3 months out, on the slow boat from China.  The sh*t is cheaper, but don't expect to be able to get it anytime soon!

    Not only that, the geniuses at corporate decided to slim down inventory to make the quarterly profits a little fatter for the stock holders.  I'll never understand...yeah, profit will be up a percent or two, but we're giving away business to the competition to achieve it, and we'll feel it next quarter guaranteed. A customer only gives you so many chances to deliver before you lose them for good, no matter how cheap your sh*t is, you gotta have it to sell it.

    And they layed off a couple hundred people this week to boot...Merry Christmas and God Bless America!  

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    The large mirror fell off my bathroom wall. (5.00 / 2) (#47)
    by oculus on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 01:20:14 PM EST
    Mell of a hess.  I call first mirror company and leave a message.  No return call.  Second mirror company comes out and measures.  Turns out they don't actually have any mirrors in stock.  But, they did a good job when the mirrors arrived at their store.  And the owner graciously drilled holes in the bottom of a ceramic pot for me.

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    At least the service... (5.00 / 1) (#53)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 01:44:07 PM EST
    was good even if the lead time was long.

    I'm trying to keep the customers happy....subbing similar models at reduced prices, giving sh&t away...but you can only do so much from this low on the totem pole.  

    Gotta run, another fire to put out on Line 7:)

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    It didn't take the second company (none / 0) (#56)
    by oculus on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 02:02:27 PM EST
    long to get the mirrors.  Just surprised me they didn't have any mirrors in stock.  

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    Nobody wants to stock nuthin'.... (none / 0) (#59)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 02:10:53 PM EST
    it might reflect poorly on the quarterlys, and we can't have that!

    Investment and long-term planning is for suckers, apparently.  

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    You are one of those people who get extras (none / 0) (#71)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 03:09:42 PM EST
    How do you guys do it?  My adopted mom, she is getting this girl who works four hours from her in Florida to bring her special bacon from the place the girl works when the girl is visiting her family for the holidays.  All this arranged by phone when mom was calling to order bacon and sausage and stuff.

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    Bless your heart! (none / 0) (#52)
    by easilydistracted on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 01:35:08 PM EST
    That Aspartame lobby ... (none / 0) (#82)
    by Robot Porter on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 05:21:09 PM EST
    must be powerful.

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    I gotta admit.... (none / 0) (#89)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 06:48:09 PM EST
    that was my first thought too!

    Here are some other new taxes I left out earlier...haircuts, manicures, cable tv, satellite radio, and movie/concert/sporting event tickets.

    Plus a slew of new fees and fee increases...25% increase in vehicle registration and drivers license renewals, a new marine fishing license fee, state park entree/activities fee increases at various percentages.

    And this one takes the cake...a new ten dollar fee to file your state tax return by mail.  Imagine that, a tax on taxes...now I've seen it all!

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    Chrysler closing all NA plants for a month (none / 0) (#76)
    by nycstray on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 04:24:37 PM EST
    starting Friday thru Jan 19th. Just now breaking on ABCNews

    Hard for many to buy a car w/o cash... (none / 0) (#79)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 04:43:35 PM EST
    NEW YORK (WABC) -- Chrysler is closing all 30 of its manufacturing plants for a month starting Friday.

    The company needs to match production to slowing demand and conserve cash.

    Tighter credit markets are keeping would-be buyers away from their showrooms, Chrysler says.

    Dealers are unable to close sales for buyers due to a lack of financing, and estimate that 20 to 25 percent of their volume has been lost due to the credit situation.

    Chrysler claims it is nearing the minimum level of cash it needs to run the company and will have trouble paying bills after the first of the year.

    Operations at the 30 plants will be idled at the end of shift on Friday, Dec. 19, and will not come back online until Jan. 19, 2009, or later.



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    The workers can collect unemployment (none / 0) (#80)
    by nycstray on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 04:56:44 PM EST
    right?

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    I assume so. (none / 0) (#81)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 05:04:17 PM EST
    Sounds like white collar will still get (none / 0) (#84)
    by nycstray on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 05:38:38 PM EST
    paid and blue collar gets unemployment with company supplement via ABC now. Seems white collar should also go unemployment with supplement to max savings . . . . ?

    I'm counting my blessings I have work (self employed) for the next few months secured. Bad enough to get laid off (or in my case, no projects), but in this economic environment, scary as all heck.

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    standard two week holiday shutdown, and also GM and Ford are also extending their standard 2 week holiday shutdowns...

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    Ah, I didn't hear that part. Thanks (none / 0) (#86)
    by nycstray on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 05:56:09 PM EST
    It was reported on CNN (none / 0) (#97)
    by Amiss on Thu Dec 18, 2008 at 12:26:35 AM EST
    that the workers will still get paid, its in their contract, supposedly.

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    In November, Chrysler cut about 5,000 salaried jobs through a buyout and early retirement program.

    By the end of this month, it is expected to have eliminated more than 1,800 hourly positions.

    Workers at the plants will be laid off during the down time, but a supplemental unemployment program ensures that they will continue to receive most of their pay.

    The United Automobile Workers union agreed this month to suspend the company's jobs bank programs, which compensate workers for permanent closures, but it is unclear when that change will take place.

    Foreign automakers have been reacting to the slowdown, too. Toyota said this week that it would delay work on a factory in Mississippi that would build the Prius hybrid, and Honda said it was cutting first-quarter production by 119,000 vehicles.



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    VIdeo Tape Protects Innocent (none / 0) (#77)
    by squeaky on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 04:28:39 PM EST
    A police officer who was videotaped knocking a man off his bicycle in July during a monthly cycling event in New York City has been indicted, the officer's lawyer said on Monday.

    The officer, Patrick Pogan, has been instructed to report to State Supreme Court in Manhattan on Tuesday for the unsealing of the indictment, said the lawyer, Stuart London. Mr. London said he did not know what the charges would be.

    NYT

    Had the tape not existed, Mr Long would have, no doubt, been found guilty of three misdemeanor charges of  attempted assault of a police officer, resisting arrest and disorderly conduct.

    Long spent 26 hours in jail.

    Saw that bit of good news... (5.00 / 1) (#95)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 07:39:27 PM EST
    As much as I dislike all the cameras everywhere, theres a brightside to that too.

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    Patriot Act Gag Order Struck Down (none / 0) (#83)
    by squeaky on Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 05:26:12 PM EST
    Until the ruling, recipients of so-called "national security letters" were legally forbidden from speaking out. The letters, usually a demand for documents, or a notice that private records had been searched by government authorities, were criticized as a cover-all for FBI abuses.

    "The appeals court invalidated parts of the statute that wrongly placed the burden on NSL recipients to initiate judicial review of gag orders, holding that the government has the burden to go to court and justify silencing NSL recipients," said the ACLU in a release. "The appeals court also invalidated parts of the statute that narrowly limited judicial review of the gag orders - provisions that required the courts to treat the government's claims about the need for secrecy as conclusive and required the courts to defer entirely to the executive branch."

    Raw Story