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Live Blog: Michigan Hearing , Part Two

By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Sat May 31, 2008 at 01:00:48 PM EST
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There's a big storm in DC and the tv coverage blanks out occasionally. BackFromOhio is live-blogging for TalkLeft from the meeting room here.

I'm going to start with Hillary's representative arguing her case. On Obama, I was surprised he asked for 50% of the delegates when the news yesterday was he abandoned that in the spirit of compromise. Apparently not.

Howard Wolfson is on MSNBC now being interviewed.

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    Live Blog: Michigan Hearing , Part Two | 22 comments (22 topical)

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    someone should ask Bonier... (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by p lukasiak on Sat May 31, 2008 at 01:05:34 PM EST
    why Obama's name was on the Washington, Nebraska, and Idaho ballots ...BECAUSE THEY DIDN"T COUNT

    What a shameless lie (5.00 / 3) (#9)
    by Steve M on Sat May 31, 2008 at 01:09:21 PM EST
    I still cannot believe Bonior sat there and told the committee that the four candidates removed their names out of respect for the DNC.  It's one thing if Internet commentors don't know any better, but he was Edwards' campaign manager, he knows it is an utter lie.

    He should be ashamed.  Debbie Dingell should have stood up and reminded everyone that, a mere one week before the primary, the Obama campaign ensured her he would keep his name on the ballot.  It was a stunt to delegitimize the election and help Obama in the early states, and Bonior damn well knows it.

    Jaysus.. (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by JustJennifer on Sat May 31, 2008 at 01:09:58 PM EST
    This is very frustrating.  Why on earth are they talking about the "intentions" of people who voted uncommitted or (and they finally mentioned it) the Democrats who voted in the Republican primary?  How about we get a psychic up there and they can tell us what the voters really meant when they voted?  I can't believe I am watching my party talk about manipulating the votes based on what they perceive to be their intent.

    Maybe (none / 0) (#20)
    by janarchy on Sat May 31, 2008 at 01:12:18 PM EST
    they can go with ouija boards and tea leaves and reading of entrails to determine the percentages.

    It's unbelievable to me that they really are asking for this with straight faces and claiming they KNOW that x amount of people would have or should have been able to or whatever.

    It's a joke.

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    C-SPAN is fuzzing out for me too (none / 0) (#1)
    by andgarden on Sat May 31, 2008 at 01:03:15 PM EST
    but not completely gone--and I'm in the center of the storm.

    we're in a storm break. (none / 0) (#5)
    by nycstray on Sat May 31, 2008 at 01:07:40 PM EST
    If what they said yesterday is true, things are going to get worse later here. My poor doggie hates thunder  :(

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    Howard Wolfson on MSNBC (none / 0) (#2)
    by bjorn on Sat May 31, 2008 at 01:04:24 PM EST
    FL compromise "might be good enough."

    Rachel Maddow (none / 0) (#3)
    by bjorn on Sat May 31, 2008 at 01:05:23 PM EST
    saying that "Fair Reflection" might be used by Clinton campaign to not accept comm decision and go to convention.  I don't see how they can do that since they did not fight very hard in the hearing.

    It is outrageous that Bonior (none / 0) (#6)
    by andgarden on Sat May 31, 2008 at 01:08:01 PM EST
    has asked for 100% strength for the Michigan SDs. I think we know why that is. (Hint: who has more SD support in MI?)

    Actually (none / 0) (#8)
    by cmugirl on Sat May 31, 2008 at 01:09:21 PM EST
    I think Clinton has more SD support in MI, but that could have changed.

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    finality (none / 0) (#7)
    by p lukasiak on Sat May 31, 2008 at 01:09:11 PM EST
    Michigan will come out with the 50% of voting strength, apportioned by the vote itself.  

    Uncomitted (none / 0) (#15)
    by Andy08 on Sat May 31, 2008 at 01:10:34 PM EST
    should remain uncommitted till convention. Will they do that?

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    Wolfson, what is (none / 0) (#10)
    by Andy08 on Sat May 31, 2008 at 01:09:45 PM EST
    he saying???

    Can someone tell me is there (none / 0) (#11)
    by masslib on Sat May 31, 2008 at 01:09:53 PM EST
    a CSPAN link?

    C-Span fine for me (none / 0) (#13)
    by splashy on Sat May 31, 2008 at 01:10:13 PM EST
    With Dishnetwork. Sorry about those with problems.

    They will not (none / 0) (#14)
    by americanincanada on Sat May 31, 2008 at 01:10:25 PM EST
    go with the Brewer allocation.

    I am betting they seat the delegation at 100% and uncommitted stays uncommitted.

    Gotta love (none / 0) (#16)
    by stillife on Sat May 31, 2008 at 01:10:41 PM EST
    Bonior and other Obama supporters (including Brazile) speaking on behalf of those who didn't vote.  Hey, plenty of folks couldn't vote in the caucuses, but I don't hear the Obama camp speaking up for them!

    Bonior says we need to respect (none / 0) (#17)
    by akaEloise on Sat May 31, 2008 at 01:10:47 PM EST
    those Democrats who crossed over to vote in the GOP primary in Michigan since their candidate was not on the Democratic ballot.  I think he's nuts.  Neither party should condone that kind of interference in the other party's nominating process.

    I agree! (none / 0) (#19)
    by JustJennifer on Sat May 31, 2008 at 01:12:12 PM EST
    Crossing over to mess with a primary is disrespectful and we should never condone or approve of it in any way.

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    Aren't you supposed to vote in good faith (none / 0) (#21)
    by nycstray on Sat May 31, 2008 at 01:12:25 PM EST
    and not mess with the other party?

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    Maybe the committee (none / 0) (#18)
    by cmugirl on Sat May 31, 2008 at 01:11:18 PM EST
    should consider things like this:

    From Rasmussen

    "Obama's numbers are 45% favorable and 53% unfavorable (see recent daily ratings). Those figures represent Obama's lowest ratings of the year. His favorability ratings peaked at 56% in mid-February. Twenty-five percent (25%) have a Very Favorable opinion of Obama while 37% have a Very Unfavorable view.

    Voters see McCain as the candidate most likely to reach across party lines and work effectively with both Republicans and Democrats. "

    McCain (none / 0) (#22)
    by madamab on Sat May 31, 2008 at 01:12:25 PM EST
    actually has a record of doing what Obama says he's going to do.

    So does Clinton.

    Interesting, eh?

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