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    I just went to read at Orange (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 06:01:28 PM EST
    and I can't do it seriously.  It's too funny, and I'm really not authorized to read at Orange anymore :)

    I know. (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 07:01:28 PM EST
    I went back there and made a few comments--the first time in years and it's some sort of alternate universe going on for the most part.

    The Obama apologia knows no bounds. No mention of the loss of womens' votes last week. Everybody is sure that the GOP is going to nominate Palin===not! Though there are some that are sick of being stabbed in the back by Obama.

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    I like to go for the DADT diaries. (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by jes on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 07:02:05 PM EST
    The one today by indiemcemopants resulted in about 10 folks finding themselves in the hiddens. It's war between some of the LGBT and other factions who are, yet again, blaming the gays for the loss in the mid-terms.

    I like Joan, also too.

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    Yeah (none / 0) (#8)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 07:04:51 PM EST
    and I love the ones who are screaming but...but...but the GOP. I told them voting against the GOP just doesn't get it for some people. It seems that they should have learned that from the midterms but I guess not.

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    yeah, at the moment (none / 0) (#9)
    by nycstray on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 07:12:34 PM EST
    i can't think of any reason i would vote 2012. if prop 19 is back on, that would get my ballot in the mail . . . . otherwise, I'm set with Boxer/Brown. Rep Miller is a long standing shoe in so . . .  it will be interesting to see if there's any point in buying a stamp :)

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    Right (none / 0) (#10)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 07:14:55 PM EST
    now I'm not showing up either. I live in a deep red district and my rep probably won't have an opposition and there are no statewide offices to vote on.

    That seems to generally be the plan for a lot of voters so far.

    Maybe Obama's financial backers will decide not to fund him and he'll decide not to run. Who knows?

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    and wouldn't we be counted as (none / 0) (#11)
    by nycstray on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 07:28:47 PM EST
    "likely voters"?

    nice thing about being registered Green, I'm off their radar {grin}

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    They have some decent DADT (none / 0) (#16)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 08:22:35 PM EST
    activists fighting the good fight there.

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    DADT action (none / 0) (#17)
    by Politalkix on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 08:48:53 PM EST
    Visit the Orange site. There is a thread, calling for action.

    DADT action critical: we need your help NOW


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    Kabuki (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by andgarden on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 09:27:52 PM EST
    It's over.

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    Why do you say that? (none / 0) (#21)
    by Politalkix on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 09:41:55 PM EST
    What does the President or Senate Democrats gain from not repealing DADT? Or do you think that PBO is more conservative than I think him to be and does not believe in the repeal?

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    I know as well as he does (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by andgarden on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 09:44:52 PM EST
    that the Republicans aren't going to go for this.

    Starting "the call" while the President is on the other side of the world is almost comical.

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    All sad and true (none / 0) (#28)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 06:38:24 AM EST
    DADT will not be lifted now.  I don't know when we will ever come this way again either. First we must have a President who isn't afraid of his/her shadow and can emotionally survive the brief insanity immediately following and who has the will to do it.

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    Who knows what Obama believes in? (5.00 / 2) (#24)
    by caseyOR on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 10:22:57 PM EST
    He may have a list of things worth fighting for, but repealing DADT is not on it. I'm not impressed with Obama's words; I'd like to see some action. And so far, his administration's actions re: repealing DADT are more along the lines of keeping it.

    I mean, seriously, the DoJ appeal of the recent court order, insisting on a Pentagon "study" that will not be released until next month, refusing to use his executive power to put an immediate stop to discharges. If those are the actions of a fierce advocate, please give us tepid support.

    Nothing of any use to most of us will be passed during the lame duck session. It would be a good time to pass the middle class tax cuts, give that $250 rebate to seniors to make up for another year w/o COLA, extend unemployment benefits for everyone including the 99ers,oh and repeal DADT. Sadly for us, that would require exercising political muscle and discipline. So, don't hold your breath.

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    Because he would actually need ... (none / 0) (#36)
    by Yman on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:09:51 AM EST
    ... to fight for it, rather than just talk about it.

    Plus there's this:

    The drive in Congress to repeal the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy appears all but lost for the foreseeable future, with action unlikely this year and even less likely once Republicans take charge of the House in January...

    Sens. Carl Levin of Michigan and John McCain of Arizona, the top Democrat and Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, are in talks on stripping the proposed repeal and other controversial provisions from a broader defense bill, leaving the repeal with no legislative vehicle to carry it...

    Tommy Sears, executive director of the Center for Military Readiness, which opposes a repeal, rated the chance of action "extremely low." Richard Socarides, an activist and former adviser on gay rights to President Bill Clinton, said it was "extremely unrealistic'' that Congress would take it up this year.



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    Of course it's over (none / 0) (#33)
    by lilburro on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 08:27:43 AM EST
    and it's naive to think otherwise.  But that's the specialty of some.

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    I just don't think President Obama (5.00 / 2) (#20)
    by KeysDan on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 09:34:04 PM EST
    has his heart in it.  But, that just me.

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    I don't, either (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by gyrfalcon on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 11:04:33 PM EST
    I think he's reasonably convinced that repealing it is a good idea, but he's not going to use up much, if any, capital if there's a fight over it.  Same with women's issues.  He was delighted to sign the Lily Ledbetter Act, but he would never have fought for it, IMHO.

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    wasn't that a nice neat lil' package (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by nycstray on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 11:49:43 PM EST
    all ready to go? No skin off his nose . . . .

    He was delighted to sign the Lily Ledbetter Act, but he would never have fought for it, IMHO.



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    People would say bad things about him (none / 0) (#32)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 08:09:21 AM EST
    At least for a little while.  In the military we would need a President who could withstand the brief moment of the crazies going ballistic.  Some people would say horrible inhumane things and we would put them on youtube.  Then our openly gay soldiers would show up in lines at award ceremonies and the military would move on.  Seriously, what are you going to say to an openly gay soldier with a purple heart who is the honor grad (top soldier) of one or several courses or schools other than sir or ma'am?  The military respects and esteems competitive earned awards above all other criteria that they judge each other by.

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    I would have to get an note from my psychiatrist (5.00 / 3) (#41)
    by ruffian on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:23:48 AM EST
    to go back there.

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    What happened? (none / 0) (#4)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 06:59:08 PM EST
    Were you banned?

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    Not yet :) (none / 0) (#15)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 08:21:28 PM EST
    they have a whole series of diaries today that have received the most action based on not having the authorization to change the goals of the Orange website....or something like that.  Someone put a diary up on how to become a citizen of the EU or something along those lines, you know, in case you are fed up with how wonderful this democracy is and sick of fighting for your life all day every day :)  Willfully abandoning the United States of America during the Obama Presidency will not be encouraged at Orange damn it :)  Don't even think you can pick up a few helpful hints around there.  They hope you drown trying to swim to Cuba for healthcare you can afford :)

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    Mr. Andrew Shirvell, Asst. Attorney General (5.00 / 4) (#23)
    by KeysDan on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 10:00:21 PM EST
    of Michigan has been fired. Mr. Shirvell  started a blog specially aimed at a University of Michigan student who was elected as student assembly president. Mr. Shirvell had taken a curious interest in the handsome student's "homosexual agenda" and his boyfriends and parties.  

    The serial cyber-bullying as well as his on-campus harassment of the student, Chris Armstrong, led to a leave of absence, then a suspension pending a hearing, and now his dismissal. Shirvell's attorney feels that it was the liberal media that started this tempest in a teapot. Indeed, posting pictures of the student with a swastika across his face, as a gay nazi, was considered OK. After all, this was done in his spare time not during Attorney General hours.  Mr. Shirvell was banned from the U of M campus until last week, although he is prohibited from having any contact with the student.

    Attorney General Cox has a keen interest in cyber-bullying and so it is ironic that Shirvell works with and apparently likes Cox. The student's attorney has filed a complaint with the Michigan Attorney Grievance Commission to investigate for purposes of possible violations that may result in disbarment.  The Daily Show had an actual interview with Mr Shirvell (Jason Jones interviewed), and is available under Comedy Central's "Look Who's Stalking".

    dogs (5.00 / 2) (#30)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 07:44:35 AM EST
    this morning about 5:30 Daisy woke me up pacing and whining and I think she has forgotten to pee when I let them out before bed.  again.
    so I stumble out of bed and to the back door and they practically kill me getting out the door so I know instantly whats up even before I hear the pathetic scream of a doomed rabbit about 2.5 seconds later.
    so then I get to head out to the back yard in my fuzzy house slippers and a flash light to find and bag the mangled rabbit.

    how the HELL do they know there is a rabbit in the back yard when they are in the house with all the doors and windows closed and the blinds drawn and the heat on?
    do the hear it? do they smell it? either way it pretty astounding.


    They definitely hear it! (5.00 / 2) (#38)
    by vml68 on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:15:14 AM EST
    I don't know what my dogs hear...I just wish it was not always between 1-3 in the morning. There is nothing like a loud piercing bark/howl when you are dead to the world, to make you bolt out of bed with your heart pounding!

    I have not had to deal with any mangled bunnies. But a few days ago, I had to deal with a very mangled comforter. My year old lab somehow managed to pull part of my comforter off the bed through the bars in his kennel and consumed a good chunk of it... :-(
    So the next day was spent watching to see if it would come out either end or we had an emergency surgery to deal with. Luckily, he managed to throw up most of it and the rest came out the back way.

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    I guess (5.00 / 1) (#40)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:22:25 AM EST
    rabbits are not exactly noisy creatures though.  pretty amazing.
    one of my best friends recently took his dog to the vet because she was not eating.  the dog weighs about 30 or 40 pounds at most.  not a big dog.  mine are close to 70. anyway when they xrayed the dog they found that she had eaten a bath towel.
    a BATH TOWEL.  not a hand towel.  how in the world did she manage that?

    my dogs dont wake me up like that.  they know better and they are not kenneled at night.  they just sleep on the rug next to the bed.  she knew perfectly well how to manipulate me into getting up and letting her out.  

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    My 3 year old dog (none / 0) (#47)
    by vml68 on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:41:19 AM EST
    is not kenneled, the only thing he has a penchant for destroying is rolls of toilet paper. I can live with that.

    When our lab was around 8 months we decided to see if he was ready to not be kenneled at night.The first night went beautifully, I guess he was really thrilled to be able to sleep on the bed and curled up sweetly at our feet. By the second night that was not good enough, he crept in between my husband and me and decided he wanted to stretch out and snore like a freight train. By morning both of us were literally hanging off the edge of the bed. We tried getting him to sleep on a dog bed or on the rug for a few days but that did not work. Most nights my husband would get up and move to the couch or the other bedroom. So our lab is back in his kennel till he is a little older.

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    heh (5.00 / 1) (#53)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:47:09 AM EST
    I love my animals to death but I draw the line at the bed.  they have pretty much the run of the house and the furniture except the bed.  that is my territory.  no pets allowed.  I have to have one place in my house relatively free of pet hair.

    poor Daisy.  when I got her it was clear that she was not allowed on the furniture but was allowed on the bed.  it took a while.


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    The dogs I have had so far have (none / 0) (#64)
    by vml68 on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:04:46 AM EST
    not been major shedders. So I was a little unprepared for my lab. When he blows his coat, it feels like we live in a snow globe, hair flying everywhere. Not cool.
    The goofy guy is lucky I love him so much.

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    ha (5.00 / 1) (#72)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:15:13 AM EST
    I have had Labs before I know how it goes
    BUT
    you havent lived until you have a Huskie.  the groomer tells me they are a whole different thing.  twice a year they do something called blowing their undercoat.  and it is exactly what it sound like.  a hair bomb.  it is unlike anything I have ever seen.  Ghost is really the only one who does this.  he is the only pure blood.  Daisy just has dog hair which is bad enough.
    whey I take him to the groomer when he is blowing its amazing when I pick him up there is white hair "drifts" in literally every corner of the room about thigh high.
    its unbelievable.  and yes its a good thing I love him.


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    German Shepherds blow coat too (5.00 / 1) (#77)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:22:38 AM EST
    and it is bad.  They weren't bred to survive 40 below zero temps though. That's a lot of undercoat!

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    they do (none / 0) (#79)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:26:21 AM EST
    had one of those as a kid.  but it not the same.  trust me.

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    check (none / 0) (#83)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:29:31 AM EST
    it out

    and honestly none of these seem as extreme as Ghosts worst days.

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    Yeah, pretty tame (none / 0) (#87)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:42:16 AM EST
    that is more along the lines of GSD blowing coat on a bad day.  Why raise sheep though, raise huskies, clothe the world :)  This is what I use to groom and it removes a lot of undercoat too when they are blowing coat, but you can only do this outside....I don't know what the inside of a house would look like if you used this indoors.  It will blow a toy dog off a table though, you have to have a dog with some substance to it :)

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    the next cycle (none / 0) (#89)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:45:22 AM EST
    maybe I will make a movie.

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    And that little Roomba is priceless (none / 0) (#90)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:47:26 AM EST
    I have to empty it every morning and clean the hairs from all the moving parts, but it has simplified my life like I can't believe when it comes to wispy dog hair floating around.

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    with a Huskie in the house (5.00 / 2) (#92)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:49:17 AM EST
    you dont have dust bunnies you have dust wolverines.

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    when I visit my sister (5.00 / 1) (#96)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:56:38 AM EST
    like for thanksgiving next month we are banished to the basement.

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    LOL I know what you mean (5.00 / 1) (#56)
    by ruffian on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:51:39 AM EST
    It is amazing how fast the get the idea that they own the bed. Couple of stories: My old departed Golden Ruffy slept in a crate perfectly fine until he was almost a year old, then one night just refused, got on my bed, and slept there every night for the next ten years. He learned the command 'scooch' if I needed him to move, but mostly was very polite and stayed at the end of the bed.   His litter mate belonged to a friend and I would occasionally have the pup over for the weekend to babysit. The first time, he jumped in the bed too like he slept in a bed every night of his life. My friend told me later than he is never allowed in the bed at home.

    My other dog I got when Ruffy was 5 never wants to sleep in the bed with me. If he's up there and I get in, he jumps down.  But the new one I just adopted jumped on the bed like she owned it the very first night, and has replaced old Ruffy there. She knows 'scooch' now too.  

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    Mine know when an armadillo is out there too (5.00 / 2) (#39)
    by ruffian on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:22:00 AM EST
    Same thing - no windows open, etc. But I get the pacing, whining dogs at the window, and sure enough I pull the shade and look out, and there's the ugly little thing in the garden.

    I only hope your fuzzy slippers don't have bunnies on them!!!

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    its weird (none / 0) (#42)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:25:49 AM EST
    the way my bedroom is set up they cant even get close to a window.  I think an armadillo might be worse.

    and no, heh.  no bunny slippers.  but I used to have some and the same thought occurred to me when I was bagging the poor mangled thing.  it was barely recognizable after I got it away from them playing tug of war with it.


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    Yuck!!!!! (5.00 / 2) (#48)
    by ruffian on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:41:32 AM EST
    My armadillo experiences aren't bloody, just destructive. Armadillos dig a hole and hide when confronted. My old dog used to try to dislodge them by digging the hole around them even bigger. So once I ended up with a 3 ft trench in the yard and a broken sprinkler line.

    Then I started shutting the doggy door at night.

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    yuck indeed (none / 0) (#51)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:44:47 AM EST
    and this is the fourth rabbit causality since I have lived in that house.  honestly I think the fact that they still come in the yard at all is sort of a Darwinian thing.

    and more than a few squirrels in my yard with no tail or abbreviated tails.

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    I'm lucky I back up to the retention pond (5.00 / 2) (#58)
    by ruffian on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:55:52 AM EST
    instead of the woods. At least the birds can get away easier!

    My new dog is obsessed with the lizards though. I'm waiting for her to put a paw through the screen on the patio, but so far so good.

    it never ends....

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    You have some fassssst dogs Capt (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:56:05 AM EST
    Mine still haven't gotten a squirrel tail yet that I know of.  They try though.  They bolt out the door first thing in the morning because they know the squirrels have been having a great time on the ground while they were gone.  Bad squirrels!

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    very fast (5.00 / 1) (#63)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:03:55 AM EST
    even Ghost with his artificial hip is pretty fast but Daisy is deadly.  she is the one who always gets them.  and probably why the short tails.  I had Ghost before Daisy and they got used to outrunning him.

    surprise!


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    I hear that with any of the sighthounds (none / 0) (#80)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:26:58 AM EST
    a squirrel is just playing russian roulette even going there.

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    Mine got a squirrel at the dog park once (5.00 / 3) (#88)
    by ruffian on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:45:12 AM EST
    Of course, it fell out of a tree and landed practically on top of him, no chasing involved. But OMG, you have never seen a prouder dog. Pranced around the park with it like he was in the ring at Westminster.

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    Cats are worse (none / 0) (#57)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:54:13 AM EST
    They usually come with angry owners :)

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    Mine too with the dillos (none / 0) (#45)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:39:16 AM EST
    I'm pretty sure they hear them verses smelling them.

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    still (5.00 / 1) (#49)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:41:33 AM EST
    that to me seems a bit less amazing than hearing a rabbit.

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    I got bells (5.00 / 1) (#52)
    by waldenpond on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:45:23 AM EST
    We have had raccoons and other cats.  I used to crack the door at any odd demands to 'hurry up' and allow the dog to bark, then used extra collars.  Grabbed some larger bells at x-mas sale.... it's much kinder to the neighbors.  Animals get away before the barking begins.

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    bells? (none / 0) (#55)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:50:45 AM EST
    you mean for the dogs?  
    not sure that would work. any sane rabbit would have disappeared as soon as I opened the door bell or no bell.  my dogs are deadly when they want to be.  it was literally about two seconds from the open door to the squeal.  and I have a big yard.

    and I think bells would drive me nuts.


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    haha No (none / 0) (#66)
    by waldenpond on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:09:37 AM EST
    The cats wear bells because we have birds... but I got one of those bracelets like kids use in elementary school.... I crack the door open and shake the bells while counting to 10 or 20.  Used to be the dog would ram the door and WOOWOORUHRUHWOOWOOWOO nails scraping on concrete and charge the playhouse.  Now, I jingle the bells, then open the door, she does a 'Odie' style bound out the door, her hair goes up, and she kind of coughs (no barking because the thrill is gone) and sniffs around and comes back in.

    Animals are aware there are dogs in the neighborhood and startle easily so the bells have solved the problem.

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    that sounds reasonable (none / 0) (#69)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:11:07 AM EST
    I will try that

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    Rig a bell outside (none / 0) (#93)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:50:54 AM EST
    that you can pull bedside, like the wealthy did before they invented intercoms :)  Ah....that's the life.  Warn them you're coming from the snuggle of your covers :)

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    but (5.00 / 1) (#97)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:59:59 AM EST
    if the dogs can hear the rabbit chewing inside the house you would think the rabbit could hear us up stomping around and turning on lights from outside the house.

    dumb rabbits.

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    that sounds like a good idea (none / 0) (#109)
    by nycstray on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 12:16:34 PM EST
    I have raccoons and really don't want my dog 'meeting' them. I was going out with a flash light and do a sweep of the yard before I let her out for last potty. She would try and make friends with them I fear . . . .

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    all will be revealed (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 08:45:26 AM EST
    Guillermo Del Toro's THQ game to be revealed during VGAs

    the VGAs is the video game awards on Spike TV next month.

    This is going to cost me a fortune :) (none / 0) (#43)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:35:04 AM EST
    Well spent though.  I have a dedicated student based on the system I have worked out :)

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    this wont be out for years (none / 0) (#44)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:39:15 AM EST
    I have heard 2013.  but possibly a fortune. it will be a series.  a trilogy at least so Im told.

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    but (none / 0) (#46)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:40:37 AM EST
    it really does sound pretty amazing.  I have been reading the specs that we just got all morning since we have a company meeting with Del Toro at lunch.

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    The boys watched Starship Troopers (5.00 / 1) (#54)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:48:57 AM EST
    this past weekend, while eating pizza.  Joshua had two friends over.  And I don't know how you watch Starship Troopers and eat pizza at the same time, but three 10 year olds did.  Then Josh asks me when the movie was made.  I was in the kitchen doing dishes so I loudly tell him before he was born.  I can remember that much.  Then he grabbed the remote and checked the date the film was made (took me months to learn I could do that).  Then he says, "Wow, great graphics for a movie this old".  All ten year olds present nod.  And I'm the dumbest person in the great room now.

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    without cheating (none / 0) (#61)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:58:46 AM EST
    I would say it was 1999?  I remember that because we as a group went to see that when it came out when I was at Disney working on Dinosaur (which came out the next year) because of the effects.

    the way they did that (the primary alien characters at least) was to motion capture puppets.
    it was done by Phil Tippett.  an effects god.


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    I would guess a little earlier (none / 0) (#110)
    by sj on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 12:29:27 PM EST
    But not much earlier I don't think.  In 1999/2000 I worked with someone who did stunt work in that movie.

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    I looked (none / 0) (#119)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 01:46:01 PM EST
    1997

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    Whew, I have time (none / 0) (#50)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:43:41 AM EST
    What about this new system though where your body is the controller?  I'm hearing that I had better start saving up for that now.

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    you mean Natal? (none / 0) (#78)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:24:43 AM EST
    I guess?  it sounded pretty cool to me also but my gamer friends tell me it will be a flash in the pan. sort of an expensive Wii.  which hard core gamers sort of snicker at.

    who knows.  it does seem like the future to me but I am not really a gamer and as one recently said to me if gamers wanted to jump around they would probably play basketball or something.

    I actually turned down a job working on the Natal project.  probably live to regret that.


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    Josh is excited to try it (none / 0) (#84)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:30:49 AM EST
    I still use the Wii fit.  Ever try to do the hula-hoop thing?  Kicks my butt :)

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    oh (none / 0) (#99)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 11:01:34 AM EST
    one thing I have heard is that they are considering making it for 3D tv.

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    The supposedly non-partisan Tea Partiers (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by Harry Saxon on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:11:13 AM EST
    and their libertarian fellow travelers like this gentelman here, from www.slate(dot)com:

    I asked Angle supporter Andrew Rothbart, who was very concerned about sound money, whether he thought the Senate was losing anything by losing a Democrat who opposed the Patriot Act and TARP.

    "No, it's a good thing," he said. He held out his arm and pointed to an imaginary wound. "That 'D' is like an infection. You need to get rid of it."

    Click Me

    News of interest (5.00 / 1) (#76)
    by Peter G on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:22:05 AM EST
    (1) The federal government filed a brief Monday in the ACLU's lawsuit seeking to justify the presidential order "authorizing" the summary execution of U.S. citizen and AQAP leader Anwar al-Awlaki.  

    (2) A federal judge in Oklahoma issued an immediate injunction against implementation of the referendum that purports to ban state judges from relying on "international law or Sharia law" in their decisions.  (Which I had heard was getting to be a big problem in the Sooner State.)

    I was hoping that.... (5.00 / 2) (#82)
    by kdog on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:27:57 AM EST
    the sharia law ban would put an end to dry counties in OK, and an end to some of the puritanical sex laws they still have on the books...oh well.

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    And 3.2 Beer..... (none / 0) (#91)
    by Rojas on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:48:52 AM EST
    Seriously... (none / 0) (#95)
    by kdog on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:56:12 AM EST
    with all this islamophobia running wild, a brightside could be getting the sharia-like wualities out of federal/state/local US law once and for all...there is far more of it than we would care to admit I think.

    There are laws against premarital sex still on the books in Okie for crying out loud.

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    this is funny (5.00 / 1) (#100)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 11:07:51 AM EST
    Rand Paul is a traitor (none / 0) (#104)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 11:36:05 AM EST
    right out of the gate....how shocking!  Will the tea partiers get their guns out again?

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    Jerry fired Wade (none / 0) (#2)
    by Saul on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 06:35:15 PM EST
    It's about time.   For me either Gruen or Cockren would be great for the cowboys. Garret will not do.  The Cowboys need a coach that is free from Jerry control's and one that knows how to kicks ass when its needed

    Cowher (none / 0) (#3)
    by MKS on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 06:52:38 PM EST
    would be very, very good (is that who you mean) but that is not Jerry's style...

    Gruden could be interesting....

    Jason Garrett gets the interim slot...

    And there are no top flight offensive lineman in the 2011 draft, so Dallas's top pick due to their ineptness won't help them where they really hurt....

    Giants fans have to love this debacle....

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    A Cowboy's coach free from Jerry's control (none / 0) (#5)
    by BTAL on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 06:59:26 PM EST
    That entity resides in the same realm as unicorns and leprechauns.  

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    Lori Berenson is once more out of prison, (none / 0) (#12)
    by Gerald USN Ret on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 07:52:17 PM EST
    but not yet totally free.

    She, her lawyer husband, and 18 month old child are in their apartment in Lima's upscale Miraflores district.

    A little humor/satire (none / 0) (#13)
    by BTAL on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 08:06:56 PM EST
    Ooops, a better linky (none / 0) (#14)
    by BTAL on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 08:08:13 PM EST
    OMG, Cuomo is talking like Obama :-) (none / 0) (#18)
    by Politalkix on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 09:21:36 PM EST
    He is apologizing for being a Democrat. Snark.
    link

    In Cuomo's defense (none / 0) (#124)
    by BackFromOhio on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 07:37:28 PM EST
    New Yorkers already pay, if not the highest, then some of the highest state taxes in the nation -- I believe.  As a result of high state and NYC taxes, many have moved to CT, NJ, etc.

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    I don't think he's actually ... (none / 0) (#127)
    by Yman on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 08:10:46 PM EST
    ... faulting Cuomo.  He's on a quest to find examples of hypocrisy among Obama critics, ...

    ... real or otherwise ...

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    Probably not... (none / 0) (#31)
    by kdog on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 07:52:19 AM EST
    who the ayatollah had in mind as a defender of the faith, but allah works in mysterious ways.  Needless to say I love this guy...

    "Snuck up behind him took his koran.
    Dude was talking 'bout burning korans.
    I was like 'Dude, you have no koran'"


    So let me understand (none / 0) (#60)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:57:12 AM EST
    This man snaked up behind a man and stole his property and then ran off.....

    What happens when some one sneaks up behind you and steals your wallet and runs off??

    Who's gonna celebrate that illegal action?

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    I'm a rebel without a clue (none / 0) (#62)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:59:53 AM EST
    So I'll go first.....Hooooray!  A Koran was saved from abuse, torture, and death

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    What if it was your purse? (none / 0) (#68)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:10:35 AM EST
    Violating the law to enforce your view of how things should be is a pretty slippery slope.

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    If I was out of my mind (5.00 / 1) (#73)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:18:11 AM EST
    and bent on setting my purse on fire in a public park, I would hope that someone would save it from my insanity and find me some meds :)  Do you know what it is like getting a new military dependent I.D.?

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    Ah, then maybe we should (5.00 / 1) (#107)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 12:09:48 PM EST
    just lock you up for doing something crazy like voting for a Democrat.

    ;-) (That's a joke, folks.)

    I asked my spouse re the ID and she claimed to not remember.  ;-)

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    If I was about... (none / 0) (#67)
    by kdog on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:10:11 AM EST
    place my wallet in a fire to destroy it, aka throw it away, why would I care if somebody took it?  I'd celebrate a guy making use of something I had no use for, sure.

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    Nice straw man, but the man owned (none / 0) (#71)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:14:10 AM EST
    the Koran and had the right to do what he wanted to with it.

    What if it was your stash and the sneaker was an evileeeee Rightie?? ;-)

    BTW - JeffinAlabama didn't make it. Too bad, he missed a great game.

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    That's just absurd (5.00 / 1) (#75)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:19:15 AM EST
    kdog would never set his whole stash on fire all at once.

    Parent
    Um, in many American jurisdictions (5.00 / 1) (#81)
    by Harry Saxon on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:27:11 AM EST
    when you throw away something it is no longer your property but can be owned by anyone who finds said item.

    I thought the Koran was worthless, so why is PPJ complaining about the theft of something with no value?

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    Apparently... (none / 0) (#98)
    by kdog on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 11:00:54 AM EST
    book burning has value.

    Giving the benefit of the doubt maybe it was really cold that day, thats the only exception I can think of to my personal "don't burn books" rule, emergency heat.

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    So if my gas heater gives way tonight (none / 0) (#105)
    by Harry Saxon on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 12:01:38 PM EST
    I could use my KJV of the Bible to keep me warm on a cold autumn evening?

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    Death in the family. (5.00 / 1) (#85)
    by jeffinalabama on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:31:53 AM EST
    Next time. Sorry for not letting you know sooner.

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    Condolences Jeff... (5.00 / 1) (#94)
    by kdog on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:51:06 AM EST
    sorry to hear that man.

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    No problem (none / 0) (#108)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 12:11:06 PM EST
    and my condolences.

    WPT tournaments start next week.

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    Of course it is "technically" (none / 0) (#74)
    by kdog on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:18:32 AM EST
    stealing, but there is a time and place to break every rule, including rules against stealing.  This was one of those times...my man stole one for common decency and I'll applaud it till the cows come home.

    If it was my stash, all the evil righty has to do is ask, I'll share:)

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    if it was a bible (none / 0) (#102)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 11:31:56 AM EST
    do you still think he has the right to burn it.
    I do by the way.  but I have to agree a bit in that if the skateboarder had nabbed my property I would have to admit I would not like it.

    having said that. shrug.

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    speaking of bibles (none / 0) (#103)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 11:32:52 AM EST
    anyone seen The Book of Eli?

    sort of interesting although if I had known what it was about it might not have ended up on my netflix list.


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    Come on man (none / 0) (#106)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 12:03:43 PM EST
    I think you have the right to burn any book that you own.

    I also think you have the right to be secure in the ownership of your property and that when we start to celebrate someone stealing someone else's property we shouldn't be surprised when the majority starts telling minorities what they can and can't do.

    Parent

    Like the Republican minority in Congress (none / 0) (#111)
    by Harry Saxon on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 12:43:30 PM EST
    2007-2010?

    Parent
    I also doubt that if it was a Bible rescued (none / 0) (#112)
    by Harry Saxon on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 12:44:48 PM EST
    from a fiery fate, that most Americans would demonstrate your sense of private property in that case.

    Parent
    You can doubt all you want (none / 0) (#114)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 12:55:33 PM EST
    and ask me to defend the Repubs as often as you wish.

    My comment was my comment and it stands.

    Parent

    Yes, you're so worried about private (none / 0) (#116)
    by Harry Saxon on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 01:19:25 PM EST
    property, and not that a jack*ss wasn't allowed to display religious intolerance against a religion you think is bloody awful.

    Okay then.

    Parent

    Free speech and property rights (none / 0) (#122)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 07:22:46 PM EST
    are either for everyone and everything or they will   wind up being for nothing and no one.

    That you do not understand this perfectly defines the difference between a true social liberal, me, and a member of the far Left, you.

    Parent

    Oh, technically you're right (none / 0) (#132)
    by Harry Saxon on Wed Nov 10, 2010 at 08:59:28 AM EST
    that was a kind of petty thievery, but you approve of the ministers' original goal of pissing Muslims off, and that it didn't take place is why you're whining about it now, PPJ, the minister got a car out of the deal when he changed his mind about burning it.

    If the Florida cops didn't do their job, that's obviously because of the effect we Far Leftist have on LEO in this country at this point in time.

    Thanks for making that clear.

    Parent

    You put a lot of words (none / 0) (#136)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Nov 11, 2010 at 09:38:23 PM EST
    in my mouth, which is the way you debate.

    I don't care if Muslims get PO'd.

    The preacher had the right to do what he did.

    Whatever he got is his business.

    Why do you hate freedom?

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    Re lot of words (none / 0) (#137)
    by Harry Saxon on Fri Nov 12, 2010 at 02:42:40 AM EST

    You put a lot of words
    in my mouth, which is the way you debate.

    I'm sorry that telling the truth about you disturbs you by the number of words that I use to do so.

    I don't care if Muslims get PO'd.

    The preacher had the right to do what he did.

    Ah, the old "It may be stupid and divisive etc but he has the right to do it" argument.

    Thanks for the smear and your lack of logic, PPJ, it brands you for who you are.

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    You brought the Preacher up (none / 0) (#142)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Nov 12, 2010 at 10:14:36 AM EST
    So you put the words in my mouth.

    The subject was the rule of law and the right to have private property...


    Parent

    If it had been a Bible or another (none / 0) (#144)
    by Harry Saxon on Fri Nov 12, 2010 at 01:34:28 PM EST
    holy book, you wouldn't have gotten all het up about it, you can argue here and at your blog until your fingers get tired, but that's how I see it.

    Parent
    Het up?? (none / 0) (#145)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Nov 12, 2010 at 01:41:52 PM EST
    well, seeing your bias against Southerners on full display does allow me to understand your lack of understanding.

    Parent
    And where and when from my comments (none / 0) (#147)
    by Harry Saxon on Fri Nov 12, 2010 at 06:45:24 PM EST
    can you detect my "anti-Southern" bias?

    That will be a surprise to some of my relatives, including my father, who were born in the South and some cases were raised there.

    Thanks again for demonstrating what paranoid looks like.  :-D

    Parent

    What if it was an American ... (none / 0) (#113)
    by Yman on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 12:52:42 PM EST
    ... flag?

    Parent
    Why did I know someone would ask??? (none / 0) (#115)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 01:00:33 PM EST
    Repeat after me.

    It is their property and they can burn it, shred it, whatever.

    Would I have to suppress a desire to chug the burner?

    Yes. Yes I would. But I would. That's the important thing.

    Parent

    Guess it's true (none / 0) (#117)
    by Yman on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 01:23:07 PM EST
    Conservatives really do put property rights above all else ...

    BTW - "Chug"?

    You'd want to drink him?

    Parent

    BTW - You DO know... (none / 0) (#118)
    by Yman on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 01:29:32 PM EST
    PPJ never lets the truth interfer (none / 0) (#120)
    by Harry Saxon on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 01:59:13 PM EST
    with his political thinking, a common American ailment.

    Parent
    As both of you know (none / 0) (#121)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 07:17:47 PM EST
    I never debate what's on my blog here.

    If you want to debate what is there, go there.

    Of course you won't.

    Have a nice day.

    Parent

    What's to debate? (none / 0) (#123)
    by Yman on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 07:23:19 PM EST
    A lie...

    ... is a lie...

    ... is a lie.

    Not that it would matter to you.

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    Tell the truth and shame the devil PPJ (none / 0) (#125)
    by Harry Saxon on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 07:55:24 PM EST
    if you can't do it here, why should we believe you'd do it on your own blog?

    Parent
    Which I just did (none / 0) (#126)
    by Harry Saxon on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 07:59:04 PM EST
    if you check the comments on your blog, PPJ.

    Parent
    Well, I sometimes read the ones (none / 0) (#128)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:21:44 PM EST
    from Dark Avenger before I delete them, but often not as his is an old song that I am weary of.

    But again. Neither Yman, you or Jondee will come and have a no holds debate. You want to remain here were you know I won't respond to your claims.

    So I end these comments. Come and debate or hide.

    Your choice.

    Parent

    I left a comment on your blog on (none / 0) (#129)
    by Harry Saxon on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:48:59 PM EST
    the Healthcare/Muslim nonsense thread, so we'll see if you can walk the walk there as well as you talk the talk here.

    Parent
    "No holds debate"??? (none / 0) (#130)
    by Yman on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:49:02 PM EST
    How do you debate with someone who (repeatedly) publishes proven lies on his blog?

    It's like trying to use facts and data to prove the earth is round with someone holding their fingers in their ears while screaming, "It's flat!  It's flat!  Because I say it is!"

    Parent

    If you can't hold your own (none / 0) (#134)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Nov 11, 2010 at 09:24:02 PM EST
    that is your problem, not mine.


    Parent
    Nice non-response (none / 0) (#139)
    by Harry Saxon on Fri Nov 12, 2010 at 02:56:09 AM EST
    Yeah, .... like trying to ... (none / 0) (#140)
    by Yman on Fri Nov 12, 2010 at 07:55:49 AM EST
    ... "hold your own" in a debate with a 3-year-old stomping his feet and screaming "The Moooos-lims are bad and the Easter Bunny is real, so there"!

    Funny stuff.

    Parent

    because (none / 0) (#131)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Nov 10, 2010 at 08:08:20 AM EST
    he can delete your comments there?

    Parent
    It tells you a lot (none / 0) (#133)
    by Harry Saxon on Wed Nov 10, 2010 at 09:01:46 AM EST
    that he hasn't posted my comment on that thread yet.

    "Cluck-cluck-cluck-cluck..............."

    Parent

    Your comment, (none / 0) (#135)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Nov 11, 2010 at 09:28:05 PM EST
    personal insult and all, was published.

    You will have to learn patience.

    Parent

    You have nothing to teach about (none / 0) (#138)
    by Harry Saxon on Fri Nov 12, 2010 at 02:43:39 AM EST
    patience, and you probably wouldn't have published my comment without my remark above, so what does that tell us about you?

    Parent
    All comments are (none / 0) (#141)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Nov 12, 2010 at 10:12:12 AM EST
    held for review before publishing.

    That is necessary because I have a life outside of the 'net and porno spam is a fact.

    So quit complaining. I'll get to you as I can.

    And if you don't violate site rules, your comments will be published.

    Parent

    Who's complaining? (none / 0) (#143)
    by Harry Saxon on Fri Nov 12, 2010 at 01:31:09 PM EST
    I'm just here to tell you the truth.

    Parent
    Sorry (none / 0) (#146)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Nov 12, 2010 at 01:42:50 PM EST
    I should have said whining.

    Parent
    Okay, I'll tell you the truth (none / 0) (#148)
    by Harry Saxon on Fri Nov 12, 2010 at 06:46:01 PM EST
    you are whining.

    Parent
    Those evil barbers (none / 0) (#65)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:06:48 AM EST
    As many as 14 armed Orange County deputies, including narcotics agents, stormed Strictly Skillz barbershop during business hours on a Saturday in August, handcuffing barbers in front of customers during a busy back-to-school weekend.

    <snip>

    Asked why his unit made arrests for licensing violations, Ogden said: "It was a misdemeanor crime being committed in our presence. We decided to make arrests."

    Berry said deputies entered his store and told his barbers to stop cutting and put their hands behind their backs. As barbers sat on the ground in handcuffs, he said, deputies removed his customers -- including children -- from the store, and began searching workstations and checking licenses without explanation.

    Barbers and witnesses at several shops told the Orlando Sentinel that deputies shouted and cursed during the raids, demanding the location of illegal drugs, which they searched for extensively. They never found more than misdemeanor amounts of marijuana at eight of the nine shops they raided.

    Link

    Hat tip to Urgent Agenda

    The war against hair continues. But I don't know whether to blame Bush or Obama.

    Ruffian... (none / 0) (#70)
    by kdog on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:13:10 AM EST
    posted that sad tale over the weekend...outrageous abuse of government power.

    I have no clue if my barber has a license and I don't care...it's not brain surgery fer christs sake, there shouldn't even be a license requirement, it's market rigging and protectionist bullsh*t.

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