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Posted on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 09:27:30 AM EST
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The only matter I have any familiarity with from last week is the Masters and Tiger Woods' much ballyhooed return. Tiger proved yet again he is the greatest golfer who ever lived. First tournament back and he is hitting it great and putting it great. His short game is not all there yet but boy, with the pressure he was under - what a performance.

I never rooted for Tiger. Always a contrarian, I can't be for the individual or team everybody else roots for. (Everybody hates the Yankees and the Gators so don't try to compare them to Tiger.) But I am sort of rooting for Tiger here (though Lefty is still the guy I am rooting for to win it.) Tiger the person? I do not know him. What his wife thinks about him is between him and his wife. Tiger the golfer? He was pretty remarkable yesterday. Of course so was Tom Watson, Fred Couples and Lefty is right there too. It should be a great weekend of golf.

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    Stupak retiring (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by MO Blue on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 09:52:00 AM EST
    TRAVERSE CITY, Mich. (AP) -- U.S. Rep. Bart Stupak, an anti-abortion Democrat targeted for defeat by tea party activists for his crucial role in securing House approval of the health care overhaul, said Friday he would retire from Congress this year. AP

    Not at all sorry to see him go.

    You think (none / 0) (#10)
    by jbindc on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 09:54:50 AM EST
    We're going to get someone more liberal?  Not from that district, we aren't.  I bet it goes back to being a seat for the R's....

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    Even if the seat is won by a Republican, (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by MO Blue on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 10:27:59 AM EST
    the only regret I have about this retirement is that the headline doesn't read "Democratic voters force Stupek's retirement."

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    Don't let the door hit you (none / 0) (#12)
    by lilburro on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 09:57:26 AM EST
    on your way out...and have fun lobbying.

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    I was wondering (none / 0) (#15)
    by jbindc on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 10:02:44 AM EST
    If he'll run for governor and the price of his vote on HIR was the support of the WH and backing of DNC.  The Dem leading right now ( Andy Dillion) does not stand a chance.

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    The (none / 0) (#29)
    by lentinel on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 11:27:42 AM EST
    very best of riddance.

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    Is retirement pay for congress (none / 0) (#35)
    by Inspector Gadget on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 11:47:26 AM EST
    available if one is voted out of office, or only if they "retire". If he is not of retirement age when he "retires" from congress, does he still get the benefit?

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    He's had 5 years of service (none / 0) (#41)
    by cawaltz on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 12:05:05 PM EST
    so he is eligible.

    Their retirement plan is a piece of work though. While us peasants are required to wait until 67(and it's looking like we'll have that age increased)they are elgible to start collecting at 60. I wonder why they aren't increasing their own ages for collection (taps chin and ponders)?

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    Better question. Why do so many (none / 0) (#72)
    by oculus on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 04:48:24 PM EST
    in Congress keep on keeping on when they can retire at 50?

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    Easy.... (none / 0) (#82)
    by Inspector Gadget on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 08:32:20 PM EST
    the perks that come with the job title, and the high life the lobbyists introduce them to.


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    As long as he takes... (none / 0) (#33)
    by desertswine on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 11:46:24 AM EST
    that thing on his head with him.

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    THE EARLY DAZE, part 10 (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Dadler on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 10:01:16 AM EST
    The memoir blog is 3200 words fatter.  

    We're meeting the newest member of our family in about an hour, spending a lot of time with her this weekend.  Eli will get to meet her on Sunday, most likely.  Such an odd way to welcome a new child, but life is odd in so many ways.  Wish us luck.  And love.  Have a good weekend, y'all.

    Peace.

    Amazing. Fortunate child. (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by oculus on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 10:37:18 AM EST


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    Good luck.... (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by kdog on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 11:16:56 AM EST
    Dadler...and what a lucky kid to find herself a new family with so much love to give...hope y'all hit it off smashingly!

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    Luck and love, Dadler. (none / 0) (#38)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 11:58:18 AM EST
    Luck and love.

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    Avoiding "Slavery" (5.00 / 1) (#69)
    by squeaky on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 04:05:51 PM EST
    Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) invited an uproar after deciding to reinstate Confederate History Month without mentioning "slavery." That word had been included in previous Confederate heritage proclamations. (Governor McDonnell later apologized and added language that painted slavery as a cause of the war and as a "hateful" institution.)

    "I don't think you can understand the Confederacy and the Civil War unless you understand slavery,'' said Mr. Obama, who sent a wreath, as presidents have done since Woodrow Wilson, to the Confederate Monument at Arlington National Cemetery last Memorial Day. (Moreover, first lady Michelle Obama is a descendant of Southern slaves.)

    McDonnell's initial omission of slavery in his proclamation was "unacceptable," Obama said.....

    ...."It's just a reminder that when we talk about issues like slavery that are so fraught with pain and emotion, that, you know, we'd better do some thinking through how this is going to affect a lot of people," Obama said.

    CSM

    digby:

    Governor Bob McDonnell's lame "apology" for declaring confederate history month without mentioning slavery makes me laugh. This is the very definition of the Atwater dogwhistle, cruder than anything we've seen in quite some time and it says something about where our politics are at the moment.

    worth a read

    digby is dead on (5.00 / 2) (#71)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 04:26:59 PM EST
    I said yesterday the guy knows and knew exactly what he was doing.  dog whistling to the full mooners.  its not the first time he has done it and it wont be the last.  

    I also read something someplace yesterday I agree with.   this is s win win for him.

    now he not only gets his dogwhistle in but gets to look like Obama and the liberal media is beating him up.

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    How long before (5.00 / 1) (#79)
    by jondee on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 05:44:38 PM EST
    those Stars 'n Bars teabags come out?

    Brought to you by the purple band-aid, Clinton nutcracker people.

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    SC justice Steven annouced his retirement (none / 0) (#1)
    by Saul on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 09:39:18 AM EST
    just seconds ago on CNN

    going to be (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 09:40:31 AM EST
    an interesting summer.  yes it is.

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    A great loss (none / 0) (#5)
    by jbindc on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 09:44:57 AM EST
    We'll never see another liberal lion like that on the Court.  We will see "safe" choices from now on.

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    funny thing about the court (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by CST on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 09:46:20 AM EST
    you can't really predict how it will end.

    It's a lifetime appointment, and people change over time.

    A lot of previously "safe" picks have turned out not so safe.

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    In a sense, Justice Stevens (5.00 / 4) (#20)
    by KeysDan on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 10:52:04 AM EST
    fits that bill.  Appointed by Gerald Ford, a conservative Republican, but upon the recommendation of Senator Charles Percy (R,IL), part of that dying, if not dead, breed of moderate Republicans.  Moreover, Stevens had the support of Attorney General Edward Levi, former dean of the U of Chicago Law School, and president of the university.  Levi was brought to DOJ, in the wake of the Nixon scandals, to re-establish integrity and to de-politicize (if not fumigate the leftovers of the felon John Mitchell).

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    A questuion... a serious question (none / 0) (#24)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 11:13:10 AM EST
    Why do I never read of a "moderate Democrat?"

    Is it because they are none? Or is it because the writers, not just you, assume that Democrats are all moderate but some Republicans are not?

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    I heard more about (none / 0) (#28)
    by CST on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 11:25:21 AM EST
    moderate dems during the healthcare debate than I ever really wanted to.

    Also referred to as "blue dogs".

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    I thought of Blue Dogs (none / 0) (#47)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 12:35:56 PM EST
    but don't find that and "moderate" the same.

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    It is an interesting question and (none / 0) (#59)
    by KeysDan on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 01:36:59 PM EST
     I may not be any more successful in answering than trying to wake a dead horse for a morning ride. However, please permit this try:  I think your are right, "moderate" does seem to be applied more to those Republicans who are thought to lessen the intensity or the extremes of that party's spectrum.  And, from that perspective, I believe that component is essentially missing from the Republican party, with a resultant extremist purity. Some Democrats, as noted during the health care deliberations, were  referred to as "moderates" not necessarily to ameliorate other views of the Democratic spectrum but to replace them. The newer descriptor, it seems, for Democrats of such stripe,  is "centrist", or if the position or person is really liked, a sensible centrist. We have, at TL,  already discussed the "Golden Mean Fallacy".   At the time of the Ford administration, Senators such as Javis or Percy were probably considered by many Republicans as "liberal".   I agree, too, that Blue Dog is not quite the same as what I view as a "moderate", but rather is a descriptor better suited to a Democrat more comfortable with the Republican party, but remains in the Democratic party for opportunistic reasons.

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    So there are no extremist Democrats?? (none / 0) (#83)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 11:58:56 PM EST
     
    And, from that perspective, I believe that component is essentially missing from the Republican party, with a resultant extremist purity.

    S

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    I took seriously, that you (none / 0) (#84)
    by KeysDan on Sat Apr 10, 2010 at 08:58:37 AM EST
    wanted a serious response.  I regret that I tried.

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    Never saw or see (none / 0) (#60)
    by jondee on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 01:50:03 PM EST
    "moderate democrat"..

    I think that one falls into the "I'll see it when I believe it" category.

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    "Moderate Democrat" (none / 0) (#61)
    by jondee on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 01:57:39 PM EST
    683,000 hits on Google.

    Apparently the concept is out there and has been discussed before now.

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    I will be very curious (none / 0) (#8)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 09:47:46 AM EST
    to see if you are correct.  Obama has not seemed to be in much of a mood to kowtow lately.

    I would love an in your face head exploder of a nominee.  I think many would.  and it is an election year.

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    Sports dynasty hangover (none / 0) (#3)
    by CST on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 09:42:34 AM EST
    One problem with having an amazing run in sports - when it ends it doesn't end with a bang.  It sort of peters out.  Your teams are still playoff worthy, but no one really expects them to win.  You want to be engaged, but after living through a decade of close games, incredible victories and losses, everything else just seems... bland.

    I'm having a hard time getting into it these days.  That being said, I got free hockey tickets for the last home game of the season.  Great seats.  Trying to get pumped, it might be a difference maker for making the playoffs.

    Oh. (5.00 / 2) (#16)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 10:13:30 AM EST
    Sad, sad Boston fans.  My heart bleeds for you--or not.  Probably not.  :)

    I'm off to cheer on my never-won-a-championship baseball team this afternoon with the eternal optimism that comes with the start of a new season.  And a warm, sunny Spring day.

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    I don't wanna hear it... (none / 0) (#25)
    by kdog on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 11:15:08 AM EST
    from either of ya...Boston has recent titles, Colorado exceeds small payroll expectations on the regular...and the big market big payroll Mets look like they are well on their way to hit-no pitch or pitch-no hit ineptitude for yet another year.

    Calgon take me away:)

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    Poor, sad Mets fans. (none / 0) (#36)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 11:48:54 AM EST
    ...oh wait--I kind of do feel sad for youse guys.  Of course, it is tempered with the fact that the Mets have a WS win too.  

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    That we do have... (none / 0) (#39)
    by kdog on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 11:59:00 AM EST
    a whopping two of them, and both considered miracles:)

    It is something...but when you consider we should have at least 4-5, it only adds a level of sting.  

    Where in Mexico ya headed brother?  Hope she is as kind to you as she was to me!  

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    One man's miracle (none / 0) (#40)
    by jondee on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 12:03:49 PM EST
    is another man's fluke :)

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    Can't anybody here play this game? (none / 0) (#49)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 12:37:28 PM EST
    ;-)

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    Off to Cabo... (none / 0) (#85)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Apr 10, 2010 at 10:14:57 AM EST
    ...early Thursday and come home early that Sunday.  I won't have too much time to enjoy the sun and surf with all the wedding activities to attend.  

    But, I'll be thrilled to just see the ocean. And the family, of course.

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    Yep, my Boston brother made similar (none / 0) (#43)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 12:12:39 PM EST
    comments to me earlier this week. I referred him to this song.

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    The real glory days (none / 0) (#48)
    by jondee on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 12:36:46 PM EST
    were when you knew with reasonable assurance what teams what players were going to be on from one season to the next, which made for more emotional connection between the players and the fans, imo.

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    for this reason (none / 0) (#50)
    by CST on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 12:38:37 PM EST
    I gotta love the move Nomar made.

    That one made me choke up a bit.

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    Then there was (none / 0) (#52)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 12:48:07 PM EST
    Curt Flood doing the right thing.

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    Yes sir.... (none / 0) (#54)
    by kdog on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 01:03:06 PM EST
    the players from the glory days were glorified indentured servants, and might look at it a little differently.

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    Yeah, but could Tiger succeed (none / 0) (#4)
    by observed on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 09:43:52 AM EST
    at curling?

    I am taking Boonen (none / 0) (#6)
    by me only on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 09:45:41 AM EST
    Sunday.  You?

    I'll be rooting for the old guys. (none / 0) (#11)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 09:55:44 AM EST
    Especially Fred Couples since we're just about the same age.  

    If not him then Tom Watson or Phil.  But Tiger?  I'll be hoping he blows up today and misses the cut.  

    The gallery seems to be predominantly (none / 0) (#13)
    by oculus on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 10:01:09 AM EST
    men.  Is that usual?

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    Corporate ducats? (none / 0) (#18)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 10:31:42 AM EST


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    Funny (none / 0) (#22)
    by lentinel on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 11:04:08 AM EST
    you should say that, Oculus.

    It kind of confirms the nature of the creepy interest in Tiger's private life.

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    I'm (none / 0) (#23)
    by lentinel on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 11:05:08 AM EST
    speaking of the boy-media.

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    Why was I watching? Well, I stopped (none / 0) (#73)
    by oculus on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 04:49:29 PM EST
    at a sports bar and my choices were Cubbies/Braves, NBA, and/or Masters.  Lookie loo.

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    Re: Tiger (none / 0) (#21)
    by lentinel on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 11:02:26 AM EST
    It just seems to me that the media like to get into the pants of stars and athletes.

    Why anyone should be interested in Tiger's private life more than that of the corner druggist escapes me.

    I think it is a kind of creepy rape-like activity.

    Recently, this activity has seemed to me to be mostly focused on people with some African-American roots.

    Like John Edwards? (none / 0) (#27)
    by itscookin on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 11:21:38 AM EST
    Jesse James?

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    You (none / 0) (#30)
    by lentinel on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 11:31:41 AM EST
    have a point...

    I guess it's whomever the media find to be alluring.

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    It's a time proven (none / 0) (#34)
    by jondee on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 11:47:26 AM EST
    killer combo: the eternal fascination with celebrities + the eternal fascination with sex..is there much more to it than that?

    If there were better plays and films and books written, and more people valued and payed attention to them, probably less people would have this burning need to revel in celebrity public meltdowns.

    Or maybe its that our culture lost something valuable with the decline of carnival freak shows.

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    My (none / 0) (#74)
    by lentinel on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 04:51:04 PM EST
    sense is that the media feel that if they "made" somebody - they have a right to molest them.

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    I can see creepy... (none / 0) (#32)
    by kdog on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 11:36:01 AM EST
    I can't see rape-like, not in the slightest.  No one is getting physical in their fascination with where Tiger's junk has been.

    It's just the usual sewing-circle gossip living vicariously through celebs bullsh*t...as old as time, only now on steroids with all the media saturation.

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    Ex-NFL Players Workers' Comp in California (none / 0) (#31)
    by Manuel on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 11:35:22 AM EST
    What do you all make of this story?

    On the one hand, the California law seems overly broad.

    On the other hand, those old NFL players did a tremendous amount of damge to their bodies.  It seems like the NFL owes them some help.

    On the third hand what responsibility do we have as sports fans?

    Retired... (none / 0) (#37)
    by desertswine on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 11:54:47 AM EST
    Players website.

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    Thanks (none / 0) (#70)
    by Manuel on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 04:06:26 PM EST
    That's a good link.  Talk about pre existing conditions.

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    A tribute to the coal miners in W VA (none / 0) (#42)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 12:07:29 PM EST
    and everywhere: You'll Never Leave Harlan Alive.

    What those mine owners did (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by cawaltz on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 12:12:54 PM EST
    ought to be considered criminal. Fines just don't cut the safety violations that have occured and the lives that have been lost as a result of it.


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    Fred Phelps & Co... (none / 0) (#45)
    by desertswine on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 12:14:29 PM EST
    heading to West Va.

    "This whole nation is awash in rebellious sin and defiance of God, His standard, and His servant's faithful words," a news release on the church's Web site said Thursday morning.

    "So God reached down and smacked one of those mines, killing 25 (and likely four more are dead)," it said. "Now you moan and wallow in self-pity, and pour over the details of the dead rebels' lives, pretending they're heroes."

    I can only hope they get the kind of welcome they deserve.


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    "pour over?" (none / 0) (#46)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 12:35:32 PM EST


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    Boy would I love (none / 0) (#51)
    by jondee on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 12:46:46 PM EST
    to give Fred some kind of truth serum and hear about his childhood. Or maybe I wouldnt..

    Sounds like he was raised by Torquemada and Nurse Ratchet.

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    With any kind of luck he'll fall into (none / 0) (#77)
    by oculus on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 05:02:37 PM EST
    an abandoned mine shaft.

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    God shoulda been a... (none / 0) (#56)
    by kdog on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 01:06:58 PM EST
    basketball player...damn he/she got some long arms to perform all these smackdowns from the heavens...he/she missed his/her calling.

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    Not quite the loving - (none / 0) (#58)
    by jondee on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 01:20:50 PM EST
    forgiving sort you might've imagined either, eh?

    Fred's divine being sounds like the sort that would make most of the population opt for spending eternity with Hitler, Pol Pot and Nancy Grace.

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    Saw this on one of those portable signs yesterday: (none / 0) (#53)
    by Angel on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 12:59:11 PM EST
    Alluding to the fact that Tiger was paired with two others for the start of the Masters:  

    "Know what today is?  First threesome for Tiger since November."

    Live Masters (none / 0) (#55)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 01:03:06 PM EST
    here.

    Afghanistan Memo (none / 0) (#57)
    by squeaky on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 01:18:17 PM EST
    The NYT just got a hold of a secret (previously leaked) memo by Ambassador Eikenberry to SOS Clinton, written in late 2009 about his take on the Afghanistan counterinsurgency. It is an interesting read, and I wholly agree with his conclusion.

    Best to spent the money on civilian projects, infrastructure, and making lives better aka winning hearts and minds.

    The alternative: building up troops at $10billion/year, will only make it harder for us to leave, create dependency basically only line the pockets of corrupt leaders.

    I did hear (5.00 / 1) (#68)
    by CST on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 02:46:50 PM EST
    that some portion of the "troops" sent were in fact doctors, engineers, teachers, etc...  

    The problem is, you can't have engineers out there designing and building infrastructure if they are just gonna get shot.  But the building is going on as well.  I know a number of people who are there right now for that exact purpose via U.S. AID contracts.  As it is, they still have to fly from location to location, there is no distance driving for security reasons.

    I guess what I'm saying is, it can't be an either/or proposition.  If you think the gov't is corrupt, you can't just hand them money for civilian projects.  If you want to run those projects yourself, you have to run the security too.

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    Oh WOOOOWWWWWWW (none / 0) (#62)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 02:00:12 PM EST
    How often do you see this behavior?

    Pigott among wealthy Americans asking to pay more taxes

    Link

    You mean the behavior where (none / 0) (#63)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 02:22:46 PM EST
    an individual wants everyone else to do what that individual wants them to do?

    Quite common, actually.

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    Buffett (none / 0) (#64)
    by jondee on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 02:24:30 PM EST
    more or less said the same thing, didnt he?

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    I would not be suprised if he did. (none / 0) (#65)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 02:32:04 PM EST
    As I said, that behavior is quite common.

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    LOL (none / 0) (#66)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 02:36:42 PM EST
    Finding fault with people who protest that their taxes are too low?  

    Really?

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    I think you must have misread my comment. (none / 0) (#67)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 02:39:05 PM EST


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    All the guy has to do... (none / 0) (#76)
    by kdog on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 05:00:13 PM EST
    is take out his checkbook and cut one payable to Uncle Sam if that's how he feels...the fed accepts donations on top of what they take by threat of violence.

    I guess he doesn't wanna buck up any more unless everybody else in his bracket is forced to as well...I'm not sure how worthy of praise such a stance is.  Or that increasing Uncle Sam's allowance is a good idea at all, at least until Unc learns what a budget is and what the collective priorities should be.

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    Dawn Johnsen "withdraws her name" (none / 0) (#75)
    by oculus on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 04:55:01 PM EST
    from nomination for DOJ OLC:  AP

    I trust milehighhawkeye is enjoying (none / 0) (#78)
    by oculus on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 05:32:28 PM EST
    Colorado home opener this afternoon.  Shirtsleeve weather.  Rockies 7, Padres zip, bottom of 8th.  Pathetic.

    A great day... (none / 0) (#86)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Apr 10, 2010 at 10:21:12 AM EST
    ...a great game and great friends!  Regular season record crowd yesterday--everyone was out enjoying the sun and fun at the ball park.  

    Sure beats working.

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    I head Dave Roberts, champion (none / 0) (#87)
    by oculus on Sat Apr 10, 2010 at 10:24:45 AM EST
    base stealer, is helping the Padres players with this aspect of their play.  Bet he had a few words for Cabreras.

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    Hillary Remains Spread Cancelled (none / 0) (#80)
    by squeaky on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 06:14:50 PM EST
    Buddhist lamas had warned it would bring bad luck

    and they did not want it to set a president..  

    link
    link (none / 0) (#81)
    by squeaky on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 06:15:43 PM EST
    Here

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