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World Cup: Spain

Three games again today - Honduras v. Chile, Spain v. Switzerland and South Africa v. Uruguay.

All eyes on Spain, the tournament favorite,

If it becomes possible, I'll write some actual posts on the World Cup today. My jinxing picks - Chile, Spain and Uruguay.

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    BTD's Jinx Dawg just bit Spain on the butt (5.00 / 2) (#6)
    by Ellie on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 10:46:48 AM EST
    ... but I still have my fingers crossed that they can overcome it.

    Meanwhile, in early morning drama, my corporate overlord Mr. (Darth) Vader refused to believe that I had an important meeting with prospective new clients (Bob Spain and Sue Switzerland) and tied me up most of the morning.

    Something about productivity during the WC blah blah blah and he was relying on me to yadda yadda yadda ... Luke, I AM your blah blah blah.

    Actual dialogue:

    "And how did things go with Chuck Honduras and Joe Chile earlier?"
    "Joe was a machine!"

    Sweet upset! (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by kdog on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 11:06:54 AM EST
    Tell the boss Sue Switzerland is ready to do some business Ellie, and that Bob Spain character is just full of hot air:)

    Heh ... Sue Switzerland came prepared and caught (none / 0) (#18)
    by Ellie on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 11:26:36 AM EST
    ... Bob trying to hack his way through.

    Spain's one of my picks to go to the semi-final round at the very least (for the honor of my SpFreTalian ancestry) since the last 2/3rds have recent cups on the mantle.

    But -- and it's a big jinx-dawg'd butt now -- everyone has to bring their A-game. Kudos to all those "write-off" weaker teams for coming to play and playing to win from the opening whistle.

    No excuses, powerhouses! It's the World Cup!

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    My McArab ancestry arse... (none / 0) (#23)
    by kdog on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 11:55:54 AM EST
    is as angry at the French as a Bush era Iraq war build-up GOP'er over the infamous Henry
    handball(s).

    And if Lebanon should ever qualify for a World Cup, I'll sell all my worldly possesions to be there live, would probably have to throw in a spare organ though, depending on the locale....my worldly possesions might only be worth 50 bucks in Philadelphia.

    You, otoh, are 3 fer 3...4 fer 4 including the Yanks....you come from strong futbol bloodlines.

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    Probably just as well (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by brodie on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 12:33:54 PM EST
    for the rest of the world that there are no ME teams in this year's Copa Mondiale.  Having NK and a few teams from the Balkans in the tournament already makes me nervous enough.

    Speaking of NKor, I was somewhat relieved Brazil managed to come alive in the 2d half yesterday -- Brazil being one of those rare times I automatically root for the frontrunner favorite.  They are indeed a joy to watch when they decide it's time to score, and teams like NK that concentrate too much on defense and that rely so much on the Fearless Leader for advice need to be put in their place.

    Unfortunately, NK looks capable of not being quickly put in their place and out of the tournament, judging by the quality of their play against #1 Brazil.

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    Why would that make you nervous? (none / 0) (#40)
    by kdog on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 01:05:26 PM EST
    A futbol player is a futbol player...the beauty of the tourney, and sport in general, is that we can forget about all the bullsh*t for 90 minutes at a time, plus stoppage.

    Don't hate the players...hate the game, the big game called life on earth, 21st century edition.

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    I'd like to think it weren't so, (none / 0) (#44)
    by brodie on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 01:35:00 PM EST
    but politics (or religion) is never entirely absent from what happens on the pitch when certain countries of the world manage to make it to the world sporting stage.  

    And being human, with my own preferences, personal experiences and prejudices, I have my own positive and negative rooting interests based on my own quirks plus the usual stuff.  In this brutal evaluation process, I'm afraid the virtue of the individual players, however worthy or heartwarming, usually takes a backseat to my gut reaction about the player's country.

    Similar process when I look at our own domestic sports -- politics and personal stuff intrudes on the rooting calculus.    

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    I kinda take an opposite view... (none / 0) (#45)
    by kdog on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 01:56:24 PM EST
    I was rooting hard for N. Korea yesterday, no because I got any love for totalitarian tyrannical regimes, but because I got love for people...and the N. Korean people need some f*ckin' joy in their lives, wherever it can be found.

    And for the players of their national team, the time on the pitch is probably some of the most liberating moments of their lives...a taste of freedom and self-determination for the team that isn't found in regular everyday life.

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    What can I say? The blood of conquerers courses .. (none / 0) (#27)
    by Ellie on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 12:13:01 PM EST
    ... through my veins and tends to coagulate mostly around the head until a leisurely coffee loosens things up again.

    BUT, I'm not resting easy until the threat of Brazil is totally stifled. How dare they manage to combine running and ball handling so beautifully it equally aches to love them or hate them.

    And don't you dare say that means they've already won ... you ... you ... McArab!

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    I hope not... (none / 0) (#42)
    by kdog on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 01:12:00 PM EST
    I'm dreaming impossible red, white, and blue dreams...and since that's pipe dreaming I'll take any Western Hemi squad not named Brazil or Argentina.  

    Chile looked sound from the little I saw of 'em this am....maybe they can do it.  

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    I gotta say (5.00 / 1) (#49)
    by CST on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 02:04:26 PM EST
    in defense of all the goalies out there taking a lot of heat.  It's a very high pressure, intense role on a team.  And you are often blamed when things go wrong.  But before it even gets to the point where they can make/botch a save it has to get through the whole rest of the team first.  You can't score if you don't shoot.

    and you can't shoot easily with the backs in your (none / 0) (#51)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 02:09:54 PM EST
    face, but where are the backs :)?

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    COME ON GUYS (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by Jen M on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 03:04:08 PM EST
    at least tie

    OH NO THEY DIDN'T (5.00 / 1) (#61)
    by Jen M on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 03:06:05 PM EST
    NOOOOOOO

    A RED CARD??

    Pienaar out? (none / 0) (#65)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 03:12:44 PM EST
    Unfortunately I don't think this miracle exists now :(

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    A miracle is a miracle (none / 0) (#66)
    by Jen M on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 03:15:09 PM EST
    so yeah, a miracle will help!

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    Pienaar must be three-layers of p!ssed (none / 0) (#72)
    by Ellie on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 04:50:23 PM EST
    First game hero Siphiwe Tshabalala -- who scored that schweeet opening game goal that's bound to survive the upcoming gauntlet of highlight reel moments -- wasted two good opportunies on impossible solo shots rather than pass to Pienaar.

    The team star was open and would have had a better chance; his face said, "C'mon, man, I'm right here on the field!"

    And now having to stomp off for that call against Khune. Yikes, what an incline for the whole team.

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    Today might be the day (none / 0) (#1)
    by CST on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 09:34:27 AM EST
    you break your streak.  Chile beat Honduras 1-0.

    And I have a feeling Spain will also squeek out a win.

    I hope you do not go 3 for 3 though.  Go South Africa!

    Hey CST... (none / 0) (#2)
    by kdog on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 10:31:28 AM EST
    have you gotten a load of Komac of Slovenia tryin' to pull a Joe Namath?

    Hope it's on the bulletin board at our boys hotel...and they make him eat it!

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    haha yup (none / 0) (#3)
    by CST on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 10:42:15 AM EST
    this was the response:

    "I think talk is cheap," the American goalkeeper said Wednesday. "He's got to stand toe to toe. And they've got to stand toe to toe with us for 90 minutes. And if he's still standing, then I'll take my hat off to him. But a lot of boxers talk, too, and they're looking up at the lights. And the next thing they know, they're trying to figure out how they got there."

    Tim Howard is a beast.  I think he broke something.

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    That he is... (none / 0) (#8)
    by kdog on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 10:52:49 AM EST
    nice retort by our man of the first match.  Busted or bruised ribs...Bradley will have to chain him to the bench to keep him out Friday.

    I smell a shut-out comin'...

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    Are we at the Trash-Talking stage of the Groups .. (none / 0) (#19)
    by Ellie on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 11:36:13 AM EST
    ... already? Yowzah, that usually doesn't kick in till they're safely through.

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    Me thinks... (none / 0) (#22)
    by kdog on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 11:47:49 AM EST
    Kovac has confused Algeria with Argentina or something.

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    Honduras defenders are incredible (none / 0) (#5)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 10:45:11 AM EST
    Made me sad to watch them lose.

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    Still cant figure out how to watch (none / 0) (#7)
    by CST on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 10:48:17 AM EST
    these games.  The canadian streaming wouldn't let me in because I'm not in Canada.  ESPN3 isn't working, so I'm still stuck reading about it.

    Must solve this problem before Friday at 10am.

    I'll try to catch the highlights later tonight on ESPN.

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    I'm watching the games on Univision... (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by magster on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 11:19:37 AM EST
    transmitting via my old school rooftop antennae.  "GOOOOOOOOOOAL!!" announcer works for Univision.

    There are also some web-sites that live stream some sport events on the computer.  

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    One interesting thing about Univision... (none / 0) (#16)
    by magster on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 11:21:32 AM EST
    is that it's reporters interview European players and fans in English, and then translate the conversation to Spanish for its viewers.  Cool how so many other countries are bilingual.

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    I smell a 24 hour virus.... (none / 0) (#9)
    by kdog on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 10:54:05 AM EST
    48 hours out...or a can't be missed personal appointment from 10-1...sorry boss-man:)

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    Your regional/ nat'l feed should be on THIS list (none / 0) (#13)
    by Ellie on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 11:12:50 AM EST
    Try something off this worldwide list of on and offline media sources from the Host Broadcasters site.

    It's on a kind of masters' list in this TL post I made. Bookmark the list or email the post to yourself for easy access.

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    Hmmm ... stream came through for some border ... (none / 0) (#24)
    by Ellie on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 11:56:42 AM EST
    ... roamers who said they got it loud and clear.

    I'm going to go down my mental list of pet telcomm conspiracy theories, but keep trying off this list of on/offline broadcasters and you should be set up before the S. Africa / Uruguay match ...

    ... unless Phase Two of the Telcomm World Domination scheme goes into effect!

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    The Swiss came to play (none / 0) (#4)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 10:44:05 AM EST
    And there may not be crying in baseball, but when it comes to soccer Iniesta makes me wonder.

    Spain loses! (none / 0) (#10)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 10:56:56 AM EST
    To the Swiss.  Chaos in soccerland.

    That was the best game I saw so far.. (5.00 / 2) (#11)
    by magster on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 11:00:48 AM EST
    The Swiss goal was really exciting -- bodies flying everywhere and blood.  Each side hit the post, and Spain had a bunch of shots that just missed.  Pretty fun.

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    There was another shot that the (none / 0) (#14)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 11:13:27 AM EST
    Swiss took, don't know which player (I'll have to look it up), but he dribbled around three Swiss defenders and took the shot.  Missed it but he rescued his own shot and took another one.  It was pretty awesome too.

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    Oops, I mean three Spain defenders (none / 0) (#17)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 11:22:08 AM EST
    I guess I still can't comprehend that the Swiss won, and finished some of the shots they took as aggressively as they did.

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    Ay yes, if only ... (none / 0) (#35)
    by Nemi on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 12:58:31 PM EST
    ... the goal posts had been just a liiittle further apart. ;)

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    On the play when the Swiss scored, the Spanish keeper charged out and attempted to block or steal the ball with a slide-tackle, which didn't really work very well, and then the ball was behind him in front of his goal and he tried to come back and slide-tackle the ball again, which didn't work at all this time and the goal was scored.

    To me, looking at that second slide-tackle, my first instinct would have been to try to dive head-first on the ball like it was a loose ball in the NFL, and looking at the replays I think that might have made the difference and stopped the goal.

    Is there some rule or tradition or something I'm unaware of that makes his second slide-tackle play the correct play?

    I think the tradition is (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by magster on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 11:47:22 AM EST
    not wanting to have your face punted by a world class soccer player.

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    Fair enough, although that second time (none / 0) (#25)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 12:01:46 PM EST
    didn't really look all that death-defying to me, and it is the friggin' World Cup after all. Ah well, it is easy for me to say, sitting here in my armchair...

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    For a serious answer... (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by magster on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 12:06:05 PM EST
    the goalies are soccer players who probably grew up not playing goalie and their instinct is to use their feet without having a chance to consider alternatives.

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    Looking at the play (none / 0) (#28)
    by brodie on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 12:15:18 PM EST
    at HuffPo, I'd probably go with magster on this one.  The first slide tackle, with the attacker running hard right at him, looked to be out of self- rather than goal-preservation.  I can excuse the second slide attempt since time was of the essence and the closest part of his body to the ball was the feets -- not really enough time to dive down at that point and try to block it using the hands.

    Not as bad a blunder as the Brit goalie, but still this is in the area commentators refer to as goalie "courage" and "taking one for the team", which the Spanish guy failed to do.

     

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    wimp :P (none / 0) (#30)
    by CST on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 12:26:15 PM EST
    I didn't see it, but I can understand the sentiment.

    I was once taken off the field in a stretcher due to my goalie "courage"... Let's just say after that experience, I had a whole lot less of it.  Most goalies have had a head scare or two.  It happens, it's terrifying, and it leaves a mark on your mental psyche.  We can't all be 11 and invincible.

    That being said, this is the world cup!  You leave your fear at home.  I bet Tim Howard wouldn't have flinched :)

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    Should be able to see the game recap (none / 0) (#33)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 12:46:40 PM EST
    here. No?

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    No argument at all on the first one, (none / 0) (#32)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 12:42:12 PM EST
    I was only wondering about the second one.

    I'm not sure which is faster - head-first or feet-first sliding. It is the subject of debate in baseball too.

    I'll have to defer to you guys on this one as I've played very little soccer, although my Argentinian friend is trying to talk me into joining his Tues and Thurs eve pick-up games...

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    The first time, the play (none / 0) (#36)
    by brodie on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 12:58:37 PM EST
    was in front of the goalie -- usually the best way to prevent a goal in that case is to use the upper half of the body and arms, hands  -- more body coverage by definition, and he had more time to put his upper body in block position.  Goalie error here.

    The second slide occurred because the play was now behind him and the striker was about to quickly kick the ball again on the rebound -- goalie is trying to catch up to the play, time to react is now much less than the first time, and those feet are already down there for the quickest possible preventive reaction in the circumstances.  Just no time to try a dive for the ball, imo.

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    Thanks! (none / 0) (#38)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 01:02:21 PM EST
    thanks for the link (none / 0) (#37)
    by CST on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 01:01:39 PM EST
    I have to agree with you, I think a head first dive is the right move there.  I mean, even if he'd gotten the ball with his feet it probably still would've gone in the net.

    Actually on the first slide, it was probably the right move, since it looks like he slid sideways, and is trying to get his entire body in front of the ball and if you go sideways that takes up more space in front of the net than if you go feet or head first.

    But on the second one he should have gone hands/head first - his feet, had they gotten there, the way he was sliding probably would've just knocked the ball in the net.  But diving head first towards someone's sliding feet is... intimidating.  I'd say self preservation and instinct is the "excuse" for that one.

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    Yep, I'm with you. (none / 0) (#41)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 01:06:39 PM EST
    It looked like one of the defenders could have (none / 0) (#34)
    by magster on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 12:52:19 PM EST
    smothered the ball when the ball was loose in front of the goal, with a penalty kick being the consequence.  PKs aren't automatic goals.  Does a defender get red or yellow carded for an intentional hand ball?  If not, that would seem to be the better play.

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    an intentional (none / 0) (#39)
    by CST on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 01:02:59 PM EST
    hand ball inside the box blocking a clear goal is usually a red card.

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    I think you're right (none / 0) (#43)
    by brodie on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 01:13:39 PM EST
    about being red-carded.  I think the ref has to call it in the case of an intentional handball inside the penalty area.

    And if it weren't so, we'd see such a rules-skirting maneuver much more often in WC play, since indeed a PK is never automatic.

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    Looked like he gambled and lost on first go ... (5.00 / 1) (#71)
    by Ellie on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 03:37:12 PM EST
    ... charging forward to cut off angle and (simultaneously) clear. Being flanked at the rear by two defenders would have provided some safety. When the ball stayed alive, the compensatory flailing on second one was (clearly) ineffectual.

    Had I been a tiny angelic coach on his shoulder, I would have counseled that the odds were better staying upright against this reportedly "unbendable" ball. (I didn't see the full formation on the highlight, so my $0.03 is par on the money market.)

    (OMFG ... S. Africa's keeper Khune got a VERY controversial red-card and Uruguay's Forlàn coolly used the opportunity to score his second!!! And Uruguay's Perreiro just put in Uruguay's third. HUGE.)

    Mitigating circumstances in Spain/Switz:

    Strategically, Switzerland was all in to take it ugly to the Group's alpha dog (4 yellow cards!). It paid off but they're dining on credit and will have to play cleaner and more cautiously next time.

    Sidebar from this match: Forlàn put to rest the snowballing CW about the "unbendable" new bullet-ball with a (first) goal that went straight at, over, and behind "half-man half-grasshopper" Khune.

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    Keepers all develop their own (none / 0) (#29)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 12:20:43 PM EST
    styles.  There are keepers who would have gone head first.  The man I married probably would have done that and to hell with getting wounded. But keepers that kick the balls away from goals without putting hands on scare the hell out of him because there is so much room for a turn around and there you are, unprepared to defend in many cases.  Some keepers travel far out of their boxes too very comfortably these days, not so in my youth.  Others neurotically hover like hamsters in a cage, but keepers get a lot of latitude in choosing how they conduct business these days and aren't restricted even in how many steps they can take in the box with hands on the ball anymore.  Keepers are evolving, or for some devolving :)

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    Boy did the SA goalie misjudge that shot (none / 0) (#46)
    by magster on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 01:58:55 PM EST
    like he thought it would sail over the crossbar.  Either that or he was looking at Dutch beer girls in the crowd.

    Forlan scores (none / 0) (#47)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 02:01:08 PM EST
    too easily damn it.  Come on South Africa!  This is youth day and a youth team.  Not having tremendous talent to lean on and hosting, they have gone with tremendous physical fitness when selecting this team, they have no old war horses though to lean on..........GO KIDS!

    And now Suarez scores (none / 0) (#50)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 02:06:27 PM EST
    Oy sorry (none / 0) (#52)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 02:16:58 PM EST
    didn't post it didn't make it.  Hope I didn't mess with anyone's mind too bad while they are at work.

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    I just opened TL sidebar about a second (5.00 / 1) (#56)
    by oculus on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 02:44:31 PM EST
    incident w/i the week re unauthorized civilians on U.S. bases w/i U.S. with possible weapons.  

    Too much WC watching?

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    I don't mind the horns (none / 0) (#48)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 02:03:32 PM EST
    I just mind what they do to Joshua's parrot.

    Dikgacoi got his second yellow card (none / 0) (#53)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 02:27:24 PM EST


    Suarez off the field right now (none / 0) (#54)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 02:40:59 PM EST
    his mouth was bloodied.

    Now he's on the field (none / 0) (#55)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 02:42:14 PM EST
    with cotton in his mouth.  I didn't think they would allow that?

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    Come on South African defenders (none / 0) (#57)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 02:52:20 PM EST
    Don't give them such opportunities.

    South Africa makes a decent attempt (none / 0) (#58)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 02:55:48 PM EST
    to score, they have it in them.

    Red card the goalie (none / 0) (#60)
    by magster on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 03:05:58 PM EST
    That did not look intentional.  Yellow card maybe.  That's pretty tough.

    Suarez was hitting the ground (none / 0) (#62)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 03:07:39 PM EST
    every minute or so though :) And the refs didn't have much to go on so they were playing on.  I think the ref is sick of Suarez being "helped" to the ground :)

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    Ohhh -- the goalie guessed right (none / 0) (#63)
    by magster on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 03:10:53 PM EST
    but the shot was well placed. Not a bad effort who came in cold to challenge a PK.

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    if he was so sick (none / 0) (#64)
    by Jen M on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 03:11:19 PM EST
    of suarez hitting the ground

    Why did he give Uruguay a goal?

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    They've been pretty (none / 0) (#67)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 03:15:42 PM EST
    rough on Suarez, he was getting a lot of helps to the ground that weren't being called.

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    *sigh* (none / 0) (#68)
    by Jen M on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 03:16:57 PM EST
    Miracle of BIBLICAL proportions.  

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    oops (none / 0) (#69)
    by Jen M on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 03:17:36 PM EST
    replied to wrong post. Oops.

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    3rd goal Uruguay (none / 0) (#70)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 03:24:55 PM EST


    Watching ESP vs SUI; flash cost Spain some goals (none / 0) (#73)
    by Ellie on Wed Jun 16, 2010 at 08:06:35 PM EST
    I thought they were showing off in the first half with lovely clever stuff but sloppy shooting (match stat: 7 shots on goal, 13 wide?!?!)

    This preening without follow-through soon became tiresome. Even I was going, "C'mon stop d!cking around guys!" (and I'm rooting for them!)

    All that possession time, a very carded opponent, and way more shots on goal; Spain should have remembered this prescient moment from Xabi Alonso at the 2008 Euros:

    Interviewer: Spain have also embraced a ball-playing style dubbed tiki-taka.

    Alonso: I don't like the names tiki-taka [a nonsensical term that means pass and move] or jugones [playmakers]. However much of a jugon you are, however well you can do tiki-taka and keep the ball, you can still be beaten. You have to be able to combine possession and neat passing with competitiveness and penetration. It's no good being horizontal, you have to be vertical. In any case, we'd already embraced a ball-playing style; it's not something that happened during the qualifying campaign.

    There's a huuuuuge bullseye on Honduras' @ss now and Spain will be charging at it hard.