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    Only like the coolest diary (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 11:26:33 AM EST
    ever right here.

    Lion's Coach Said What.... (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by ScottW714 on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 12:39:48 PM EST
    "I'm glad the third best wide receiver on the Cowboys is on our team."

    That is awesome.

    I love watching the Cowboys disintegrate, maybe even more then watching the Packers and Texans win.

    Lion's Coach Said What.... (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by ScottW714 on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 12:40:20 PM EST
    "I'm glad the third best wide receiver on the Cowboys is on our team."

    That is awesome.

    I love watching the Cowboys disintegrate, maybe even more then watching the Packers and Texans win.

    Did he really say that (5.00 / 3) (#10)
    by Peter G on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 12:49:05 PM EST
    twice?

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    He was Shuddering... (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by ScottW714 on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 02:46:50 PM EST


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    Glenn Greenwald (5.00 / 2) (#9)
    by MO Blue on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 12:44:01 PM EST
    No need to worry folks

    ..a new U.S. military study today finds that Awlaki's killing won't impede Al Qaeda's operational capabilities, so for those of you worried that this killing might impede Endless War, don't worry: like the bin Laden killing, Endless War will march on unimpeded; that's why it's called Endless War; link
    Also from the Greenwald link: (5.00 / 2) (#15)
    by KeysDan on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 01:37:26 PM EST
    "the most ignorant claim justifying the Awlaki killing is that he committed treason and thus gave up his citizenship."  There is this document, Glenn continues,  called the constitution that lays out the steps the government is required to take before punishing a citizen for treason."

    Apparently, Glenn feels that no indictment, no due process does not pass constitutional muster.  But, he did not, apparently, watch Bill Maher's show where the justification was just that: it was treason and the penalty for treason is death. All guests agreed (including former Michigan Gov. Granholm).    Case closed.

    As for the citizenship revocation part, State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland said that she did ask state department lawyers  whether the government can revoke citizenship based on affiliation with a foreign terrorist group, and it turns out there is no law authorizing officials to do so.   But, those who are sticklers for the rule of law need to get over it. Take your cues from the MSM: that was Friday and this is Monday,  we need to look forward not backward.

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    Well that was the whole point of it, no? (none / 0) (#14)
    by Edger on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 12:59:51 PM EST
    How can they have a 'war on terror'(TM) without creating as many terrists as they can possibly create, to help them sell the con to the gullible fear addicted public they've created?

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    and the nytimes (5.00 / 2) (#12)
    by CST on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 12:56:32 PM EST
    continues to ignore Occupy Wall Street.  Boston.com finally has some coverage on the front page.  Nytimes.com?  Nothing.

    They've got to have over 100 stories on that page, ranging from the important "New State Rules Raising Hurdles at Voting Booth" to the rather obscure "Oracle Convention Engulfs San Francisco With a Party Atmosphere", but not a single article on the front page about the protests or arrests or anything related to Occupy Wall Street.

    The one opinion piece that I thought might talk about it "Op-Ed Columnist: Missing the Populist Moment" was about how no Republican is taking advantage of the tea party movement.  Because the only populists are republicans apparently.

    A Second City player (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by KeysDan on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 03:55:12 PM EST
    conducted a clever "interview" for Occupy Wall Street: He offered "Free Media Makeovers" for the rather ordinary dressed protesters.  Tri-cornered hats along with mis-spelled signs were a part of the makeovers, so as to get media attention.

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    Really? (none / 0) (#20)
    by vicndabx on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 02:46:18 PM EST
    Seems to me at least the NY Times does appear to have a fair amount of coverage, admittedly, not much was front page stuff.

    NY Times

    Could be because of the varied nature of the protesters.

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    I have no doubt (none / 0) (#22)
    by CST on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 02:50:24 PM EST
    that if you search the nytimes for coverage there will be something there.

    But not putting anything even remotely related to it on the front page - when there are a TON of articles on the front page - speaks volumes.

    They can't ignore it completely.  But they continue to marginalize it.

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    Not one of those ten (none / 0) (#27)
    by sj on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 03:35:46 PM EST
    articles (at this time) could be considered serious analysis or journalism.

    Could be because of the lazy nature of the writers.  

    Then again, they may not want to write anything that affects their own paychecks.

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    For what date (none / 0) (#41)
    by NYShooter on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 07:45:23 PM EST
    Are we talking about here?

    The Sunday NYT (10/2/11) had the lede, and the opening paragraph(s) of a fairly long article elsewhere in the paper.

    Or are we discussing earlier dates that I missed?


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    Just talking about the articles that came up (none / 0) (#50)
    by sj on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 10:00:32 PM EST
    with your link.  They may have changed :)

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    Time for Jeffinalabama (5.00 / 3) (#19)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 02:43:17 PM EST
    to report in on how he is doing.

    Have you been following (5.00 / 2) (#42)
    by NYShooter on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 07:58:25 PM EST
    his diary, over on the right of this page?

    I was dismayed to read his full biopsy showed extensive spreading, of an "aggressive" sort.

    But he's an incredibly smart, and tough guy, and will deal with it straight on.

    He doesn't have to be told how many friends he has here, all pulling for him, all the way, until he's recovered.

    And.......he will beat this thing.

    I do so decree it.


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    So let it be written (5.00 / 1) (#51)
    by sj on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 10:01:48 PM EST
    So let it be done.

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    Yul? Is that you? (5.00 / 1) (#53)
    by NYShooter on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 04:57:13 AM EST
    Its about time! Now stop flexing your biceps and get over here.

    Got that Jeff; we're working the King, Pharaoh, Czar, and Dick  Tator Contingency first, Then we'll swing over to the Moses, Prophets, Philanthropist & Philosopher gang. Hell, we'll exhume Jerry Falwell if that's what it takes.

    Just as long as you know we won't stop until you're sucking down cold ones with both fists again (and not throwing them up)

    And when that glorious day arrives

    (We'll send you our bill)


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    Oy, vey! (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by Zorba on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 02:59:49 PM EST
    I'm trying to advise my sister-in-law, from a thousand mile away, on how to deal with my very, very bright nephew (8 years old) in school.  I think that the child has dysgraphia, at the least- he reads well, he answers well orally, and he types well, but he cannot write well, which is flummoxing his teacher.  My SIL has asked me because I'm a retired Special Education teacher.  I gave her some suggestions, but I really don't know what current resources they have in the St. Louis area to have him diagnosed and get him some help.  I suggested contacting the local universities who have either Special Education and/or Occupational/Developmental Therapy programs.  Other than that, I have nothing.  Anyone in the St. Louis area who knows what current resources are available for such students, I would appreciate some input.

    She should be able to just request (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 08:48:23 AM EST
    that he be evaluated by the school district.  What to do if they fudge evaluations though?  I know I'm jumping the gun but with budget cuts you never know.  Of course if you were an OT or related you will have the ability to catch a few fudges even long distance most likely :)  You tend to be sharp.

    They fudged a hearing exam on Joshua here that was just standard for all the kids when he was four.  There is more legislation protecting the deaf and the blind, and the school district here was trying to keep as many tools out of my toolbox as they could right out of the gate I guess.  So stupid now...looking back

    Joshua had had his first hearing eval though when he was about six months old.  And he was very talented so he was sitting in the audiologists booth giving hand signals when he was around two.  I already knew he had a profound low tones hearing loss in one ear, and I guess in brokedown Alabama they thought at his age he must have never had one.  They tried to tell me his hearing eval was normal.  I smiled slowly and looked at those two faces very carefully back and forth until they both had to eventually look at the floor.

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    St. Louis has a separate school district (none / 0) (#25)
    by oculus on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 03:15:49 PM EST
    for special ed.  Special School District of St. Louis.  www.ssdmo.org

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    Thank you, oculus! (none / 0) (#26)
    by Zorba on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 03:22:28 PM EST
    A big help!  I know that, back when I was in college there (way, way back in the Pleistocene Era!), St. Louis was far ahead of most of the rest of the country in both Special Education and Gifted Education.  Nice to know that they are still there in Special Ed, at least.  

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    Why do I know about this? (none / 0) (#29)
    by oculus on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 04:38:27 PM EST
    My niece is a speech pathologist in the special district.  She got her master's degree at a college with a French name in St. Louis.

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    Fontbonne Univ. (5.00 / 0) (#30)
    by oculus on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 04:40:03 PM EST
    link

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    Oculus, (5.00 / 1) (#61)
    by NYShooter on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 10:36:00 AM EST
    Send your niece a hug and a kiss from me

    Years ago, when he was in 1'st grade, my very bright son had a speech problem; he simply couldn't pronounce certain letters. And, we all know the cruelty young kids can display when a peer has any impediment. My wife and I were torn. Should we try to work with him privately, or risk further ostracizing him by isolating him from the main stream and enroll in some kind of "special ed?"  (Class for dummies, as the kids called it)

    Well, in marched the hero of the story. Aware of the stigma, a very smart young speech  pathologist at the school told us that our son could stay where he is, and on the days when all the kids were given open periods to attend to various personal things, he would simply go to a classroom, and work one on one with this young lady, virtually anonymously.

    2-3 months later.....problem gone!  Bless education, bless smart administrators, and most of all, bless the greatest bargain we taxpayers have in this country: dedicated, committed, and fabuously trained teachers. (I include Pathologists)(and, oh. Did I mention grossly underpaid?)

    Make that two hugs.....and three kisses


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    Terrific outcome. May pass this (none / 0) (#66)
    by oculus on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 12:48:41 PM EST
    along--FB-loving niece may disapprove of my referencing her here!

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    Man up! as they say (none / 0) (#68)
    by NYShooter on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 01:37:13 PM EST
    jeesh, its not like you posted her picture, name and phone number.

    just tell her I'm a veteran and "made you do it."

    I don't care, tell her I wouldn't stop crying untill you promised to tell her.

    But tell her.

    Promise?

    p.s. seriously,and from extensive personal experience, a little praise, and a heartfelt "pat on the back" means more than material rewards for many of these angels. And, I bet your niece is just such an angel.

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    She is. She truly found her calling in (none / 0) (#69)
    by oculus on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 01:49:09 PM EST
    life.  THe real problem:  I don't think she ever reads her e-mail.  Just texts and FB.  

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    Fontbonne! (none / 0) (#40)
    by Zorba on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 07:13:09 PM EST
    Yes, I know about Fontbonne.  Thanks for the reminder!

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    Writing: I read just last week (none / 0) (#44)
    by the capstan on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 08:07:47 PM EST
    that many, many schools have decided the act of writing is no longer a vital subject.  Kids are printing until they graduate to the keyboard.  I think the article was from NYT, but I found it on Google Reader.  A word to the wise (teacher) about a problem that is very self-limiting?

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    I have suggested (none / 0) (#47)
    by Zorba on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 08:59:16 PM EST
    to my sister in law that they look at getting my nephew a laptop and exploring either IDEA (Individuals with Disabilities Education Act) or Section 504 of the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) in order to, basically, require the schools legally to accommodate his writing disability.  That does, unfortunately, require a diagnosis from some medical or other professional.

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    What about an IEP? (none / 0) (#56)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 07:59:22 AM EST
    Does he have one?  Does he have a diagnosis at this time?

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    Not yet (5.00 / 1) (#60)
    by Zorba on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 10:33:04 AM EST
    He doesn't have an actual diagnosis yet (and I doubt that the school district would accept the opinion of an out-of-state aunt). I'm not a lawyer, just a retired Special Ed teacher, but the way the law used to work when I taught (at least, the procedures in the states where I worked) was that the parents raised a concern with the school and asked for an evaluation.  Then the school would evaluate and schedule an IEP.  The only two cases I knew of where the school basically said the kids weren't special ed and therefore did not qualify for services, the parents in each case got an independent evaluation, got a lawyer, and went due process.  In both cases, the school district lost in court and had to provide services.

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    Another Tiger Game (5.00 / 1) (#52)
    by CoralGables on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 10:58:23 PM EST
    and there is still joy throughout the land.

    Hello from Astana! (5.00 / 4) (#54)
    by observed on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 06:02:17 AM EST
    I arrived here safely 13 hours after about 18 hours of flying, in three legs.

    I was immediately situated in my brand new, completely furnished apartment, on the 15th floor of a large complex, with a view of the Palace of Peace and Reconciliation (the big Pyramid), directly across the street. Late this morning, I was taken to the Khan Shatyr, which is the huge entertainment/shopping center in the form of a tent. My first meal in KZ consisted of Miso soup with salmon, chicken yakitori, rice from "Sakura" and a latte from some coffee place whose name I have forgotten.
    There is no McD's in Astana, but there is a KFC in the Khan Shatyr.
    I then did some shopping in a supermarket on the first floor, getting all of the essentials for home, with one exception---we could not find adapters in any store in the Khan Shatyr.
    Hence, I will not shave or get on the computer from home yet.

    I have found the staff at the university extremely helpful and nice. They have anticipated a lot of my needs. In a couple hours, I hope that I get my water purifier installed (essential for drinking water), and maybe  my internet and cable hooked up. I have big flatscreen LG tv in my living room.
    I have to say that the accomodations totally exceeeded my expectations.
    This place is so new that my unit is the only one in my area of the 15th floor which is completed---the rest are still under construction.

    I hope all of you are well over in Monday.
    I feel tolerably ok now, but I'm told that this much time shift will manifest its worst effects in three days. I can't wait.
    I'm going out to dinner with another professor tonight. Who knows what kind of food we will eat!

    Ciao.

    Glad you arrived safety (5.00 / 1) (#55)
    by MO Blue on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 07:23:50 AM EST
    Sounds like your living quarters are real nice and that the university staff is going to be a big plus.

    Can't wait to get regular updates on life in Astana. Hope you will continue to have time to post on a regular basis.  

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    I see a memoir/travel writing in (5.00 / 0) (#67)
    by oculus on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 12:54:11 PM EST
    your future.  Quite interesting.  I'd resort to ambien the first couple of nights.  

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    So glad it is working out so well so far (none / 0) (#57)
    by ruffian on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 08:31:39 AM EST
    Can't wait to hear your updates. How exciting.

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    Welcome to Astana. (none / 0) (#70)
    by caseyOR on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 04:30:59 PM EST
    I await your posts about what I am sure will be your fascinating immersion in they country and culture.

    Sounds like your apartment is nice and your colleagues friendly. Good start to this adventure. eh?

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    So far, so good (none / 0) (#71)
    by observed on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 08:47:01 PM EST


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    Katie Goodman (none / 0) (#2)
    by Edger on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 11:39:37 AM EST
    Has a good song that could be the perfect one for the 'Occupy' movement, on youtube here...

    The protests have now spread to 30 cities.

    That video (none / 0) (#11)
    by Edger on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 12:56:02 PM EST
    is NSFW, btw...

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    Will an update re BTD's daughter (none / 0) (#3)
    by oculus on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 11:42:34 AM EST
    be forthcoming?  

    It was 16 years ago today (none / 0) (#4)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 11:57:24 AM EST
    Oct. 3, 1995, that OJ Simpson was acquitted of murder.

    Crazy (none / 0) (#6)
    by ScottW714 on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 12:20:16 PM EST
    There are maybe 10 things in which I will never forget where I was and with whom I was with when it happened.  Like the space shuttle blowing-up, 9/11, and somehow the OJ White Bronco chase got put in that list.  

    Not a big fan, he was just an old football player who ran through airports for Hertz.  Yet that chase sticks in my mind.

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    The chase (none / 0) (#13)
    by sj on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 12:56:45 PM EST
    I must be the only person in the world who never saw that.  I didn't see it real time or in rerun(although I have seen 10 second video when it has been discussed for one reason or another).

    And, now that I think about it, one question I have never gotten answered is how one gets in a "low speed chase" to begin with...

    Maybe I should look it up tonight.

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    No (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 02:39:56 PM EST
    you're not the only person who didn't see it. I am in that club too. And like you, I saw it a million times on TV after the actual event.

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    Answer (none / 0) (#16)
    by CoralGables on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 02:04:17 PM EST
    I have never gotten answered is how one gets in a "low speed chase" to begin with...?

    Drive slow

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    Have you ever driven slowly? (none / 0) (#24)
    by sj on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 03:15:28 PM EST
    Did you get "chased?"

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    You Are Lucky (none / 0) (#17)
    by ScottW714 on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 02:38:21 PM EST
    Can't remember my mom's bday, but that stupid chase won't go away.

    My uncle got in a low speed car chase long ago.  He was drunk and his plan was to go slow and then when he pulled in the yard, dash for the door, lock it, and start drinking.  In days past, this was one of several plans to foil the cops, making the the state of drunkeness a question not answerable.  This was before MADD went on the warpath.

    He was a teacher and one can only assume this plan was developed long before that night.

    The flaw of his master plan was him being so drunk they got him in the front yard because he fell down drunk way before the front door.

    Back in the day, drunk driving actually meant falling down drunk.

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    G-G-G-men! (none / 0) (#5)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 12:12:45 PM EST


    LAT re Stephanpoulos interview of (none / 0) (#31)
    by oculus on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 04:46:17 PM EST
    Pres. Obama:  We aren't better off today

    Girl with Down Syndrome crowned ... (none / 0) (#32)
    by Yman on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 05:02:41 PM EST
    ... homecoming queen.

    Sounds like the other students chose her just because she's such a nice person.

    Talk about beauty, through and through (5.00 / 1) (#62)
    by NYShooter on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 10:41:43 AM EST
    Zowie!

    You go girl.

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    Hank Williams Jr (none / 0) (#33)
    by CoralGables on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 05:21:54 PM EST
    gets pulled from the Monday Night Football intro for being clueless.

    Heard Orel Hersheiser calling one of (none / 0) (#34)
    by oculus on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 05:25:00 PM EST
    yesterday's MLB play off games on ESPN radio.  Good job.  

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    What?!!!!!!!!? (none / 0) (#35)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 05:43:55 PM EST
    He was one of the few things worth watching on most MNF.

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    Statement from ESPN (none / 0) (#36)
    by CoralGables on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 06:07:27 PM EST
    "While Hank Williams, Jr. is not an ESPN employee, we recognize that he is closely linked to our company through the open to Monday Night Football.  We are extremely disappointed with his comments, and as a result we have decided to pull the open from tonight's telecast."

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    You can't blame them (none / 0) (#38)
    by Yman on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 06:33:37 PM EST
    Who would want to be associated with a winger who draws Obama/Hitler analogies?

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    As a Jew, I gotta chuckle (5.00 / 1) (#63)
    by NYShooter on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 10:48:38 AM EST
    [We're a movin on up......]

    Compared Boehner to Netanyahu!

    Man, there's hatred, and then there's Obama hatred.


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    No one I wouldn't think (none / 0) (#39)
    by CoralGables on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 06:43:08 PM EST
    unless of course he was planning on running for the GOP nomination for US Senate is Tennessee, in which case he'll be the belle of the tea party ball.

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    Are you ready for some Hitler??!! (none / 0) (#37)
    by magster on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 06:17:24 PM EST
    Doubt he'll get the Dixie Chicks' treatment on county radio stations for this...

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    Dealing with Medicare choices? (none / 0) (#43)
    by the capstan on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 07:59:01 PM EST
    Got my 'choose us' info from AARP today; my info for the next year from the state (which deducts my current choice from my pension) came Friday. I have read in various places that AARP has good rates, so I checked out my current plan F on it.
    Let me give a word of caution: I am considered in good health by my actual doctors.  But AARP asks some (for me) loaded questions.  I have 2 niggling auto-immune disorders; I have stenosis from a 30-year-old fall; I have scars on my retina from childhood; a local quack thought he'd do a rotor-rooter on an artery that I already knew was partially blocked by my shoulder blade; and the medicine I take for the auto-immune thing causes me intermittent gastric problems.  So all these things have been checked and ruled out as actual health problems for me.

    But AARP would raise their offered rate for me to heavens knows how much.  (Yes, my state rate is higher, but it is the same for everyone.)  Conclusion:  if you figure on signing up for medigap ( a good ideal), do it before before you have accumulated brushes with a bunch of doctors looking for things to diagnose.  (I'm an FDR baby, you know, so I have lots and lots of check-ups on my record.)  The doctors say I am in good shape despite it all, but AARP would certainly decide my rate would hardly be the advertised one.  I plan on sticking with what I have--and I suggest that any of you looking for an insurance change, do it before accumulating too many doctor visits.

    Are you sure that AARP (none / 0) (#45)
    by MO Blue on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 08:26:09 PM EST
    would raise their offered rate? Have you called Medicare to find out if AARP or any other Medigap policy is allowed to charge you extra for a preexisting condition. It was my understanding that they could not do so when replacing one Medigap policy with another during the open enrollment period.  

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    I have an AARP (none / 0) (#46)
    by MO Blue on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 08:34:05 PM EST
    Plan F Medigap policy and I paid exactly the amount published for that plan even though I was being treated for cancer at the time I obtained the policy during open enrollment.

    When they asked me some health questions I quizzed them about whether or not they were allowed to underwrite the policy for preexisting conditions and the answer was no.  

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    What was printed (none / 0) (#48)
    by the capstan on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 09:11:07 PM EST
    and what I thought I read were not the same!  (An effect I sometimes get because of the auto-immune deal plus being hurried.)  I see where I goofed.  But if I understand how it works, I'd have to add the drug coverage separately?  Now I do not have to do that, since meds are included with my health plan. Guess I shall keep on thinking till December.  Thanks for calling attention to  my stupidity.  (And I probably shall not bother to compare the effect on my income taxes.  But I shall hold on to the enrollment papers I was about to toss!)

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    It is easy to get confused (5.00 / 0) (#49)
    by MO Blue on Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 09:17:07 PM EST
    the way it is set up. Premiums for this and premiums for that. Be much easier and less confusing if we just paid Medicare (i.e. the government).

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    Prohibition (none / 0) (#58)
    by ruffian on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 08:35:26 AM EST
    My main problem with the Ken Burns film is the same one I have had with his last couple - the Peter Coyote narration. I find it very grating and boring at the same time, if that is possible. I was hoping for a replacement after The National Parks was not as good as I expected.

    Chris Christie really really not running. (none / 0) (#64)
    by ruffian on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 12:08:52 PM EST
    Embrace the Mitt, GOP!

    "No" means "No" (none / 0) (#65)
    by Yman on Tue Oct 04, 2011 at 12:43:55 PM EST
    Link

    "Now is not my time," said Christie in explaining his decision. He quipped, "New Jersey, whether you like it or not, you're stuck with me."

    Uhhhhhhmmmmm .... not.

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