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For Stephanie Grisham, the press secretary for Arizona Attorney General Tom Home , who said in an email that the claims being made by the media witnesses and defense attorneys about the botched execution of Joseph Wood are not accurate.

"He went to sleep, and looked to be snoring. ...I was surprised by how peaceful it was. There was absolutely no snorting or gasping for air."

(h/t SJ in comments.) This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    Happy Birthday.... (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by desertswine on Sat Jul 26, 2014 at 03:40:06 PM EST
    Onion (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 26, 2014 at 06:50:08 PM EST
    It's amazing... (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by unitron on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 12:57:12 PM EST
    ...how the people who cheered when Reagan bombed Qaddafi (for Lockerbie or the German nightclub or whatever it was) were suddenly Muammar's best buds when Obama wanted to keep him from, as they constantly said about Saddam, "killing his own people".

    I guess everybody... (none / 0) (#2)
    by unitron on Sat Jul 26, 2014 at 03:46:57 PM EST
    ...is still fighting Friday night's battles.

    Me, I'm just battling the lawn mower and the rain.

    I swear our yard is the Bermuda Triangle of small gasoline engine performance.

    I need to do that (none / 0) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 26, 2014 at 07:02:11 PM EST
    But heat advisories today and tomorrow.  Then another cold front.  I'm waitin.

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    The Eagles (none / 0) (#3)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Jul 26, 2014 at 06:06:36 PM EST
    My favorite of all the great bands... Where has the talent gone??

    To get the early bird special (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 26, 2014 at 06:49:18 PM EST
    Saw 'em in Raleigh... (none / 0) (#7)
    by unitron on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 03:48:56 AM EST
    ...back in '05.

    Pretty tight harmonies for stage versus studio.

    So not all of your favorites are strictly "permanently on tour in Branson" acts, huh?

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    Actually (none / 0) (#8)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 08:08:01 AM EST
    most are dead....

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    Well, more and more of mine... (none / 0) (#14)
    by unitron on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 12:51:17 PM EST
    ...are falling every day as well.

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    Good Thing (none / 0) (#17)
    by squeaky on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 12:59:57 PM EST
    With a generational shift we will see more and more tolerance....

    Fortunately the great ones that pass are but a few.. the bigots and racists plentiful.

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    So you think... (none / 0) (#33)
    by unitron on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 07:01:49 PM EST
    ...most of Jim's favorite recording artists are a bunch of bigots and racists?

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    To Squeaky anyone who disagrees with him is a (none / 0) (#34)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 07:08:36 PM EST
    racist and a bigot.

    But I forgive him. He really can't help it.

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    No (none / 0) (#35)
    by squeaky on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 07:54:23 PM EST
    A generational generalization, relating to demographic shifts and tolerance.

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    In other words... (5.00 / 1) (#55)
    by unitron on Mon Jul 28, 2014 at 06:15:53 PM EST
    ...we were talking strictly about musical performers and you just had to jump in with an off-topic swipe at him?

    At least when I post in disagreement with the post of his to which I'm replying, it's in disagreement with what he said in that post, and my argument against is more specific and on-topic than "You're wrong because you're a terrible person".

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    Get a Room (none / 0) (#56)
    by squeaky on Mon Jul 28, 2014 at 06:21:02 PM EST
    If you want to bond with ppj over your favorite dead musicians.

    Otherwise, this is an open thread so you will have to put up with comments that do not fit your strict narrative.


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    God help me (none / 0) (#9)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 09:55:35 AM EST
    My life is so sad I was watching Meet The Press.
    I thought they might discuss the High NYTimes op-ed.
    They did.  I said some old far+s would have to die, three of them were on the "panel".
    You really should watch it if you can bear it.  I had forgotten how vapid and pathetic Sunday morning banter can be.
    Favorite quote from Bobo Brooks on the new tension with the Russia part if the world in response to the suggestion that we had not quite figured out what foreign policy looks like without putting boots on the ground.  He said -
    "We did this for 40 years after world war 2.  We had an American led order which involved sort of constant gradual pressure.  And that constant gradual pressure, which (in this part he starts waving his hands back and forth along with his head in a sort of sing song way) Involved small wars every seven or eight years (With a sheepish chuckle at the end there) but it kept the wolves at bay"

    I swear to god that's a quote.  I rewound three times to make sure I got it right.

    I quit (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 10:27:04 AM EST
    watching them back in the 90's when they were yelling for Bill Clinton to resign and could not figure out why his approval ratings were so high at the same time. But then that's the clueless beltway media for you.

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    Remind me again... (none / 0) (#15)
    by unitron on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 12:53:42 PM EST
    ...which one of those periodic dustups it was in which he volunteered to go risk being shot at?

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    They were small wars (none / 0) (#18)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 01:12:23 PM EST
    Just to , you know, keep the wolves at bay.

    The wolves being the military industrial complex.

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    David Gregory really annoys me (none / 0) (#44)
    by MKS on Mon Jul 28, 2014 at 09:01:04 AM EST
    His happy talk with his guests.....It really highlights how much of a game it is.  All these people are just members of an exclusive club and the joke is on us.

    I do not want nicey nice banter with your guests that makes you feel good.

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    How could he not, seriously, (none / 0) (#45)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 28, 2014 at 11:01:36 AM EST
    With the house refuing to even talk about raising the minimum wage not ask Ryan why it might not make sense to give people the incentive of a living wage to get off assistance programs?


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    The other memorable quote (none / 0) (#19)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 01:16:01 PM EST
    Was from Paul Ryan who was explaining that there are so many government programs that there is no point of taking an entry level job because you would lose money in the long run.

    And no one asked him if a more reasonable way to solve that problem might not be to raise the minumum wage.

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    In his (none / 0) (#20)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 01:21:50 PM EST
    Have you seen the picture (none / 0) (#22)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 03:34:30 PM EST
    where Ryan gets ready for his debate with Biden and they have a little kid with his folder as Ryan?

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    It's official (none / 0) (#10)
    by Slado on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 10:06:57 AM EST
    Obama has now got his own Middle Eastern country that he intervened in Militarily, overthrew the dictator and left in shambles.

    Libya

    At least he did it less expensively right?

    Don't hurt yourself ... (5.00 / 2) (#11)
    by Yman on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 10:18:03 AM EST
    ... straining to make those kinds of comparisons.  Enforcing a no-fly zone is broadly labeled "intervened in Militarily", as opposed to a bombing campaign to cripple infrastructure followed by an invasion and occupation of an entire country.

    And yeah - the fact that it was done "less expensively" is the major/only difference.

    Heh.

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    Save it (none / 0) (#27)
    by Slado on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 03:48:38 PM EST
    We toppled Quddafi.

    Without our intervention he'd be dictating away today.  We led the intervention and then today literally drove away.  

    Throw in Benghazi and you have a foreign policy twofer that Hillary should have to answer for in 2016.   Along with her reset button.

    However those who wish to see her win will rewrite history and ignore the failure.

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    We certainly helped ... (none / 0) (#28)
    by Yman on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 05:08:07 PM EST
    ... in the sense that we  implemented a UN-mandated no-fly zone against Gaddafi, preventing him from using his air force to slaughter his own people.  But except for the fact that it was "less expensive", it's the same.

    Heh.

    I thought that was funny enough, but then you started with the Benghazi silliness for the thousandth time.  Sure it's lost it's punch with the number of wingnut Benghazi myths that have been debunked since they started screaming "BENGHAZI!", but it's still good for an extra chuckle ...

    But if by "rewriting history" you mean using actual facts and evidence rather than unsupported wingnut lies and conspiracy theories, I have to agree.

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    You know, maybe ... (none / 0) (#39)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 10:44:01 PM EST
    ... the person ultimately responsible for BENGHAZI! was Lois Lerner. Darryl Issa should convene a hearing and subpoena her.

    :-D

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    Look at the bright (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 10:25:44 AM EST
    side: it helps Rand Paul make his case for isolationism.

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    Good point (none / 0) (#26)
    by Slado on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 03:43:02 PM EST
    It is clear from Iraq, Afghanistan and now Libya that we simply suck at fixing middle Eastern countries.

    Of course in Libya we just wrecked it and walked away, literally we drove away this week.

    The sad reality is the revolutionary movements are not moderate.  We can choose between two types of bad.  Evil dictators or Islamic states.

    We need to stay out of this area for a while and let them figure it out.   Exactly why I never understood all the talk about Syria when we were never going to do anything about it.

    McCain needs to pipe down.  There is no good that will come from our involvement.  Going 0 for 3 should be all the evidence anyone should need.


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    Your party (aka Repubs) (none / 0) (#53)
    by christinep on Mon Jul 28, 2014 at 04:47:57 PM EST
    really does have an almost impossible task.  In the coming years, how are traditional money-guys such as the Neo-Cons (Romney, Cruz, Christie, and Paul Ryan and their National Review buddies) going to reconcile or even deal with the more Libertarian types (see Rand Paul and his Dad) ... how are they not going to tear apart over foreign policy?  While various Democrats may differ over the level, if any, of intervention under differing circumstances, the variance in the Democratic Party is more a matter of degree for most of us.

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    Nice try (none / 0) (#21)
    by ruffian on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 02:13:27 PM EST
    And remind me, what was his "worse than Watergate!" offense? I know the right has claimed about 4 of them.

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    You brought up Watergate (none / 0) (#23)
    by Slado on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 03:36:38 PM EST
    Not even sure why.

    One could argue that the now unfolding Lybia debacle is dumber because we had a clear blueprint for what happens when you chop the head off of a struggling state.

    Chaos ensues.

    If Bush had done this we wouldn't hear the end of it.  But because this was the initiative of Obama and Hillary we simply act as if it was inevitable.  So caught up in the hype that was the "Arab Spring" was our state department that they felt they could simply help nudge Lybia towards democracy and all would be good.   Instead we have created a mess and walked away.  Good job.

    One of Hillary's many success stories from her time at State.  You wonder why anyone even takes her seriously when it comes to foreign policy.

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    The Libyan intervention was, as I (5.00 / 1) (#54)
    by KeysDan on Mon Jul 28, 2014 at 04:59:24 PM EST
    thought then, and know now, was an ill-fated misadventure.   However, the foreign policy mistake was not the Benghazi of Sept. 11, 2012 as the Republicans are unproductively fixated, but the Benghazi of February 15, 2011.

    It was the later that resulted in our "humanitarian rescue", or as I termed it, "Operation Hoodwink."  UN Security Council Resolution 1973 was, ostensibly, to institute a no fly zone and take all necessary measures to protect civilians from the forces of Muammar Gaddafi.

    In fact, it saw "resolution creep,", if you want, or its goal, regime change, if reality based.  The UK and France in the lead, and the US behind, participated in the civil war.  Gaddafi had long been a thorn in the US side and was, once again, causing trouble. He needed to go, and this seemed a good time for his departure.

    It is one thing to protect civilians, and another to become the air force of the disparate rebels--and it clearly was rebels in the plural. It has been reported that Secretary Clinton, Susan Rice, and Samantha Powers were supporters of the military intervention, but the president took the advice (I believe he learned his lesson in disregarding intervention in Syria, including that incredibly small bombing).

    President Obama could easily have received Congressional  backing from the Republicans--McCain was salivating at the prospects, but chose to buck the War Powers Act, on the basis of the State Department Counsel, Harold Koh's, questionable legal opinion that the air war did not apply to the War Powers Act since there was no engagement in hostilities.

    Congress acquiesced.  Until Daryl Issa and his band of dimwits found another Benghazi, a tragic, but, explainable consequence.   Secretary Clinton was an excellent Secretary of State, working endlessly to turn-around the Bush/Cheney foreign policy she found in taters.  However, the Benghazi's should not be mixed up.  The first one was not a feather in her cap.  Libya is burning.  It is a mess.

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    Bush Did Do It... (none / 0) (#51)
    by ScottW714 on Mon Jul 28, 2014 at 12:04:02 PM EST
    ...or rather do what you you keep claiming Obama did.

    I am reading this as Iraq was a, "blueprint for what happens when you chop the head off of a struggling state".  The only inference being that Iraq was such a massive F-up, that you believe Obama should have learned a lesson, to which I would say he did by not invading and throwing human lives and a trillion dollars in hopes of spreading American democracy in the Middle East.

    And Benghazi, I mean seriously, is that what the R's think is going to beat Hillary in 2016.  How sad it is that a news station has got their viewers so disoriented with propaganda that they think this is some sort of silver bullet.

    I would love to see Rove and Fox News calling the election for the R's again only to have the hope and dreams of their uninformed viewers be smashed under the crushing reality that they never came close.  And to be hit hard with the realization that even the finest propaganda machine can't change election results, sans 2000 of course.

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    Pretty much (none / 0) (#52)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Jul 28, 2014 at 01:10:49 PM EST
    the GOP is admitting that they have nothing positive to run on. It's going to be fear and smear 24/7 and they're going to sound like a bunch of entitled children demanding the presidency be given to them because they actually believe they are ENTITLED to the presidency.

    They repesent the 1/3 or less of the country that thinks the black helicopters are going to come from the UN anyday now and put the country under rule of the UN.

    Benghazi, 9/11 and verb is something they are going to screech and screech. Most voters are going to tune them out because at the same time they are going to be saying that 4500 dead in Iraq is a wonderful thing and that somehow the SOFA signed by Bush is Obama's fault.

    What they don't yet realize is that they are going to be turned into a national laughingstock. Bill Clinton is going to make a ton of jokes at their expense. Where has Karl Rove gone since Bill Clinton turned him into a national laughingstock? Nowhere to be found.

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    New Mad Max Film in the Works (none / 0) (#24)
    by squeaky on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 03:40:49 PM EST
    Trailer

    Link (none / 0) (#25)
    by squeaky on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 03:41:16 PM EST
    My FB newsfeed (none / 0) (#30)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 05:59:04 PM EST
    has been a steady stream of comic con selfies

    I think the special comic con TMNT genitalia teaser is better but I promised myself I would not link to it.

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    Will link to this (none / 0) (#31)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 06:14:29 PM EST
    Archie may be dead but he's not gone -

    But for now, yes, it's true -- the most-read story during San Diego Comic Con 2014 so far has been about Afterlife with Archie.  Here's the list, in order, of what's got people most interested so far:

    Afterlife With Archie

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    Funny (none / 0) (#32)
    by squeaky on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 06:19:14 PM EST
    Looks like a winner...  

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    Yoyo-baby (none / 0) (#29)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 05:31:30 PM EST
    The Leftovers (none / 0) (#36)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 09:59:09 PM EST
    Is starting to get really interesting.

    Suppose I should warn (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 28, 2014 at 08:10:17 AM EST
    Since I am recommending.

    If you can make it through the first 5 minutes - which is one of the people in white being brutally tied to a tree and stoned to death - it's all good after that.  And about what happens because of that horrific incident.

    It reminded me of an episode of one of my other all time favorite cable dramas "Carnival" in which a man is tarred and feathered.  We hear about people being stoned to death or being tarred and feathered but it's impossible for most of us to imagine exactly what that means.   Seeing it is horrific beyond belief.  But IMO we own it to the people who die that way to at least know how it works.  What it looks like.

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    Leave anything in the fridge long enough, ... (none / 0) (#38)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 10:38:24 PM EST
    ... and it'll take on a life of its own, and become practically unrecognizable. Lord only knows what's happening inside the refrigerators belonging to all those people on that show who disappeared in The Rapture.

    ;-D

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    Ha (none / 0) (#40)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 10:52:50 PM EST
    That could be a promo for the show.  Their entire leftover life is starting to be unrecognizable.

    Like a Baggie you forgot in the back of the fridge.

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    "Hey, honey, what's this stuff in the refrigerator that's covered in tinfoil?"

    "I don't know -- what does it look like?"

    "Honestly, I can't describe it. It's like nothing I've ever seen before."

    "Well, what does it smell like?"

    (Sniff!) "It has no smell whatsoever."

    "Then put it back -- somebody's saving it for later."

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    I think you can appreciate this (none / 0) (#42)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 28, 2014 at 07:54:00 AM EST
    all others be warned

    Very funny bit from Silicon Valley.  NSFW.  or home for that matter.

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    Oh (none / 0) (#46)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 28, 2014 at 11:05:20 AM EST
    And whatever it was, it was NOT the Rapture.  One of the interesting things about last nights episode was a conversation between the sheriff and a federal agent about the people in white.   And the last scene is amazing.  Also about the people in white.

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    I've been watching it... (none / 0) (#49)
    by kdog on Mon Jul 28, 2014 at 11:32:30 AM EST
    it's sucking me in.

    I tell ya the Guilty Remnant is my kind of cult...peace and quiet (no speaking), all the cigarettes you can smoke...I'd fit right in, well except for the stalking and stealing people's photos and the creepy woman in charge.

    It will be interesting to see where the plot leads.

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    I can't decide (none / 0) (#50)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 28, 2014 at 11:55:50 AM EST
    About the woman in charge.   Yes, she seems creepy but so did Meryl Streep in the first half of Doubt.
    Know what I mean?
    Clearly there is more going on than we yet know.
    Maybe she does.

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    Okay, I'll watch it (none / 0) (#59)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Jul 29, 2014 at 11:04:16 AM EST
    The first few episodes (none / 0) (#60)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 29, 2014 at 11:30:06 AM EST
    Are important.   A bit dull but important.

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    Only the most recent episode is not (none / 0) (#61)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Jul 29, 2014 at 02:42:19 PM EST
    Available on demand.  But I will have at 7:00.  

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    A very rare band of summer thunderstorms ... (none / 0) (#37)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 10:21:05 PM EST
    ... swept through Southern California this afternoon. Lightning strikes in Venice Beach killed one person and seriously injured eight others. Del Mar received a half-inch of rain, and it reportedly hailed in the San Diego area.

    For the last week or so it's been (none / 0) (#47)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 28, 2014 at 11:12:17 AM EST
    Record heat here.   Now it's 81.  I just cut the grass without breaking a sweat.  Or much of one.
    The heat is normal.  This is not.   Last year I don't think my AC was turned off from July 1 to October 1.  This has been a weird summer.   Low 80s and low 50s at night for the next 7days.

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    A weird wet summer (none / 0) (#48)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 28, 2014 at 11:17:03 AM EST
    Which has led to bumper crops of, well, everthing.  

    I had so many peaches I thought the tree was going to break.

    So many grapes I had to prop up the arbor.

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    It dropped from the 90s... (none / 0) (#57)
    by unitron on Mon Jul 28, 2014 at 06:22:21 PM EST
    ...to the low 80s with a breeze here earlier today, so I'm thinking great, I can get back behind the mower for more than 5 or 10 minutes at a time.

    Of course it only cooled off so that it could rain.

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    We have skipped the rain part (none / 0) (#58)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 28, 2014 at 07:28:36 PM EST
    Of the last couple of cold fronts.  Just very cool. And dry.  Dew points on the low 50s temps on the low 80s.  Also known as georgous weather.
    Another night on the low 50s tonight.

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    Evil Dead comes to TV (none / 0) (#62)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 29, 2014 at 06:34:50 PM EST
    More than three decades after the horror classic The Evil Dead sprang forth from The Book of the Dead to spawn two sequels and a 2013 reboot, the franchise will return as a TV series. The original movie's writer and director, Sam Raimi, has teamed with his brother Ivan and the original trilogy's star, Bruce Campbell, to write the series, according to Bloody Disgusting. More exciting for horror fans is the fact that Campbell confirmed to a fan on Twitter that he intended to star in the series, or at least "that's the plan."

    I like this news. I love the franchise.  OTOH is distresses me a little.  One of the great thing about the recent wave of great TV programming is that it's original stuff.  They have been leaving the remake/reboots to Hollywood.  This is all those things.  If it's a trend it's not good.  

    Did I miss comments here re the Haille (none / 0) (#63)
    by oculus on Tue Jul 29, 2014 at 07:45:36 PM EST
    Berry in space series?

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    Hmmm (none / 0) (#64)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 29, 2014 at 08:15:59 PM EST
    Had to google.  Don't pay much attention to the networks -

    When does it premiere? Wednesday, 9 July, at 9pm on CBS in the US; 10 July on Amazon Prime Instant Video in the UK

    What is this show about? Halle Berry, in her first recurring TV role (she has an Emmy for playing Dorothy Dandridge in an HBO movie), plays infertile astronaut Molly Woods, who returns from a year alone aboard a space station to find out that she is pregnant. No one can figure it out. She also has a husband (ER's Goran Visnjic) who wants her help raising Ethan, a robot baby that he invented.

    What's the show's pedigree? It is executive produced by Steven Spielberg, which is promising. CBS ordered a 13-episode first season without seeing a pilot. It's believed this is what the kids (and by kids I mean television executives) are calling an "event series", which is what we used to call a miniseries. However, CBS did a one-season wonder with Under the Dome last summer; now that millions of people watch it every week, it's back for an improbable second season.

    I guess that answers a question we were asking the other day about when the networks were going to switch to a more manageable cable like schedule ( 12-13 episodes instead of 26).

    Is this show any good? The premiere episode is slick, tense, and well-plotted. The special effects are very good for TV, but the whole production has a polish that makes the future look like an architect's rendering of a new park rather than an actual place. The plot seems to be a pastiche of rather tired sci-fi tropes. There's the robot baby from AI, the alien baby from Prometheus, and the potentially rogue ship computer from 2001: A Space Odyssey. This isn't necessarily a bad thing.

    This is why I don't generally pay attention to the networks.  We will see.  Sounds like pretty weak tea to me.

    Btw
    About iPad quirks, I have seen no abatement

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    I got one for Christmas (none / 0) (#65)
    by Mordiggian 88 on Tue Jul 29, 2014 at 08:42:41 PM EST
    After taking a week to figure out how to sync it with my laptop, I've only had one occasion where I had to restart it, but it works fine.  It's a bit of an energy hog when it comes to apps and games. OTOH, I could listen to it for 2 hours using the default iTunes player and it barely uses any juice when I do so.

    The only real fault I found is that the maps app uses Google Maps after getting permission from the owner. At least you can be reasonably sure that Google Maps will be accurate.

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    Have you used it much on this site? (none / 0) (#66)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 29, 2014 at 08:56:23 PM EST
    There - at least for me and at one time for oculus - have been weirdness.  Like having to re log in every time you go away and come back.
    For me there have been other things.  The red "new" tags don't work a lot of the time.  Sometimes when I am posting a comment none of the little buttons for quotes or italics or linking will work.   Then if I leave the site and come back they will work.

    ??

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    I haven't tried it on this site (none / 0) (#69)
    by Mordiggian 88 on Tue Jul 29, 2014 at 09:50:53 PM EST
    but Safari automatically logs me into sites and saves the passwords as well if you want it too.

    I'll try logging on here with the iPad tomorrow and we'll see what happens then.

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    It seems to work here (none / 0) (#70)
    by Mordiggian 88 on Wed Jul 30, 2014 at 08:09:40 AM EST
    Yep.  This is not the latest iPad, but it works well enough.

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    I emailed J about "our" problem. (none / 0) (#67)
    by oculus on Tue Jul 29, 2014 at 09:25:38 PM EST
    I guess the tech. dept. likes me better!  Or you should email too.

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    I read an ad for the series in the SW (none / 0) (#68)
    by oculus on Tue Jul 29, 2014 at 09:27:52 PM EST
    airlines magazine and thought, who would watch this?  Your discretion is admirable.

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    Did I pass the test?! (none / 0) (#71)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 30, 2014 at 10:26:45 AM EST
    Yep. On this! (5.00 / 1) (#72)
    by oculus on Wed Jul 30, 2014 at 11:08:52 AM EST